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angelsdee in superatlantis

Why it is so hard to remain a loyal fan to the Stargate fandom...

Mar 25, 2007 21:36

I can say with one hundred percent honesty that I have been a steadfast fan of Stargate since the movie and followed it through to love Atlantis more than SG-1. It has been a very hard time to stay loyal to a fandom where the Company that owns it is constantly poking their fans in the eye ( Read more... )

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wraithfodder March 27 2007, 02:58:00 UTC

I can understand removing WHOLE episodes, but fan videos have been a mainstay of fandom, since, geez, I don't recall when. The only way to have them will be to host them on private sites I guess. Sigh:(:(

angelsdee March 27 2007, 03:01:17 UTC

It is quite ridiculous. Luckily I still have mine on other servers that you can't browse to find but YouTube is some people's only option and I think that is sad for them as well as the vidders who do the fandom proud.

emrinalexander March 27 2007, 03:44:58 UTC

The idiots at the corporate bean counter level will never get it - the photos and the vids CREATE interest and loyalty and - their big thing MONEY for the franchise, they don't stop people from watching the show or buying the official stuff.

angelsdee March 27 2007, 03:52:01 UTC

I agree 100%, Em. I have the most massive collection of Stargate merchandise. Not as big as most out there but enough to put a kid through college. From binders and cards, to autographed photos, to props and costumes from the Legends Auctions to an assortment of other things to many to count.

I will never understand why they are dead set to kill the creativity of their fans...besides their need to quash anything that doesn't feed money directly into their pockets.

elli March 27 2007, 09:14:20 UTC

It always suprises me that they can be so incredibly dense!!!!

canlib March 27 2007, 15:47:41 UTC

I think the problem is right now that Google is making money from the fanvids via ads and such on youtube, which they own. Google ads seem to be everywhere, but that kind of close connection between the content and some other company making big money can't be ignored by MGM. I don't like it, but I think they've done the only thing they could do to preserve their copyrights.

sgafan33 March 27 2007, 10:55:44 UTC

You probably know this but I just thought I mention:

For a look on how fans should be treated in this internet age, read this interview with Damian Kindler, one of the people behind the upcoming internet series, "Sanctuary", starring Amanda Tapping (who is also one of the producers). These folks want you to take their stuff and run with it.

David Hewlett is also using fans to market his movie, "A Dog's Breakfast". He put the trailer of his movie on YouTube and has made forays into Digg and Technocrati, asking the fans to check out his stories there. He made a place for fans on his website where they can display the movie posters they designed. In an article on Arts Hub, David tells how his fans have gone to bat for him.

(BTW, David had one fan-made music vid as a favorite on YouTube, but sadly it's been deleted, and not by the owner.)

And, not Stargate, but there are all the Star Wars fan films. Lucas actually encourages the films, with the stipulation that no money can be made. He certainly isn't losing any money and ( ... )

ladyamarra March 27 2007, 14:27:14 UTC

Well, I saw it comming.

Youtube was by far too popular and that drew far too much attention to fandom, MGM can't ignore us anymore, because all the other firms can't ignore the fandom anymore (even if they want to) and so one thing follows the next... and in the end the vids get deleted. (and if it is only that, than we can all be happy because they technically could also sue people)

It was to be expected... really.

And I think that the only way to avoid a total holocaust for fandom is to keep it quite and finally stop posting on youtube, or imeem and all that crap. There are enough more discret ways to spread the works.

canlib March 27 2007, 15:39:12 UTC

Here via the newsletter..

My impression of the issue is that most of the youtube stuff is happening because they were bought by google. We don't notice it very often because google likes to do the less obtrusive ad revenue, but they are a huge company making billions of dollars a year. They are as much a big evil giant corporate entity as Micro$oft. So I really see this as an issue coming from google making money from ads due to SG content in the fanvids, rather than an attack on the fanvids themselves.