As for the rest of your post... gosh I wish I was stronger in my own faith to help you figure out what's going on and how to approach your friends, but I'm not. Like I said, get plugged in at your church, know more yourself before you try to help other people.
Why they insist on day after day committing to a lifestyle that, while it carries them through, is ultimately...going to ruin them?
You know what struck me most about this post? The ignorance of that statement.
Have you ever considered that maybe the reason someone instsis of "day after day comitting to a lifestyle that, while it caries them through, is ultimately... going to ruin them" is because they don't know what else to do? Because they're in so much pain that they're in survival mode? They can't worry about the day after tomorrow, getting to tomorrow is hard enough?
Do you even know why people do those self-damagings to themselves? To live, Jason. It's all so they can live. It's because they have nothing else. It's because for them there is nothing else.
So while you may find out lifestyles and lack of the Gift disgusting, that doesnt' mean we are disgusting or that there's anything wrong with what we believe. Most of us are just trying to get by
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If there is a God he won't let those people burn in hell. They've lived it. They've survived it. They might not believe in Him, but they've done more then he could ever ask of ANYBODY by opening their eyes in the morning and daring to smile.
"John 14:6, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me." -Jesus.
One thing I've come to understand, Sammi- nothing, and I do mean absolutely nothing can happen in this world with my Will. No matter how much I may want something, "need" something, it cannot happen unless it is within God's Will. - and before you say, "so why does all this shit happen?", that's because of Free Will. Would you rather have a higher power control every movement you make, giving you no choice, ever? The reason there is so much evil in this world is because mankind chooses it. And it spreads out onto others.
So next time you decide it’s a good idea to broadcast your ignorance, think again.You call it ignorance, only because you do not understand. Yes, I may sound like I'm
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You are being so damned ignorant. Do you want me to bring up the specifics? How many of your friends, the ones you cut off, have suffered? How many of us have alcoholic parents or parents with drug addictions? How many of them have tried to commit suicide? How many them are subject to abusive parents and chaotic lives that they can't change
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Who said I was in pain? And you of all people know how much I try to help my friends. Is it my fault you became uncomfortable with me to the point where you ended things?
You deal with your pain by cutting off your friends. Is THAT constructive?..... All I see in you now is cowardice. Stop condenming, start doing something.
Matthew 7:4-5, "How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye', when all the time you had a plank in yours? You hypocrit, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
Why don't you try to actually understand what I'm doing? Why not actually go to church and NOT treat it like a burden?
Then you'll understand- I've found my Faith in Christ, and nothing is even near as important.
I really don't understand this. People don't like to be shunned, they don't like to be told "your not good enough to be my freind". I don't know how that can help you grow as a person. physicly, spiritually, or otherwise. These are people you loved and cared about at one point. You knew them, and you are saying you can't live with them.
Jason, your not perfect,*digs out bible*
"If one falls down, his friend can help him up. But pity the man who falls and has no one to help him up"
"ROM 13:10 Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law."
"15:2 Each of us should please his neighbor for his good, to build him up."
........you aren't. you tell us we're wrong. you tell us that you are sad for us. we don't need that. just be there. we don't need to fufill your standards. We are all trying to be the best person we can be. Just becuase you feel you have life figured out don't mock the rest of us. and don't offer fake friendships.
we don't need to fufill your standards. What makes you think they are my standards?
"If one falls down, his friend can help him up. But pity the man who falls and has no one to help him up" (Ecclesiastes 4, Verse 10) -More than likely talking about Christians, Believers. If one falls in his Faith alone, who is there to pick him up? If he has another Believer with Him (often times called "Accountablility Partners" in many churches), if one stumbles, the other(s) help him regain his pace.
(often times called "Accountablility Partners" in many churches)
Jason, I've never heard a church call another Believer an "Accountability Partners" and I've been to my fair share of Catholic and non-Catholic churches.
Just because your church calls it that doesn't mean other churches call Christian friends "Accountability Partners." Don't generalize, stop using fallacies, just because one group or sect does calls a friend "Accountability Partners" doesn't mean the rest of Christianity does it.
Why wouldn't they just call a Christian friend a... I dunno... a friend?
An "Accountability Partner" is something more out of AA than church.
I really don't understand this. People don't like to be shunned, they don't like to be told "your not good enough to be my freind". I don't know how that can help you grow as a person. physicly, spiritually, or otherwise. These are people you loved and cared about at one point. You knew them, and you are saying you can't live with them.
Jason, your not perfect,*digs out bible*
"If one falls down, his friend can help him up. But pity the man who falls and has no one to help him up"
you wrote this earlier........why are you getting rid of your friends?
"ROM 13:10 Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law."
"15:2 Each of us should please his neighbor for his good, to build him up."
........you aren't. you tell us we're wrong. you tell us that you are sad for us. we don't need that. just be there. we don't need to fufill your standards. We are all trying to be the best person we can be. Just becuase you feel you have life figured out don't mock the rest of us. and don't offer fake
You're right, "your not good enough to be my friend" is, in the very basic sense, what I'm saying. And yes, at many points in time, I did love them all very much, they meant more than I could express, and at that time... I don't know how I could have lived, or gotten where I am without them
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Jason. Let's just say that instead of pushing all your nonchristan friends away, you chose to stay around them. You might say that's like hanging around a bunch of smokers or nonbelivers. Eventually you might be pushed into smoking or not believing
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I said what I said before because I believed you wouldn't believe the reason behind the cut in the first place- I felt, and I believe God wanted me to do it.
And if you don't want to hang out with me, alright.
God loves each and every one of us. But we often break His heart and throw His love back in His face. Do you talk to God? Do you have a relationship with Him? How can you know what God thinks, if you do not daily talk and walk with Him? And I am not talking about the asking God to pass a test, or please give me what a want, but having a conversation with God. And a conversation is a 2-way deal. We talk, but most importantly, we LISTEN. Most of the time, and I too am guilty, say something to God, and 'hang up the phone' before He can get a word in edge wise. I am not saying you are a bad person. But if you think about it, some of the nicest people, are in fact going to hell.
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As for the rest of your post... gosh I wish I was stronger in my own faith to help you figure out what's going on and how to approach your friends, but I'm not. Like I said, get plugged in at your church, know more yourself before you try to help other people.
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You know what struck me most about this post? The ignorance of that statement.
Have you ever considered that maybe the reason someone instsis of "day after day comitting to a lifestyle that, while it caries them through, is ultimately... going to ruin them" is because they don't know what else to do? Because they're in so much pain that they're in survival mode? They can't worry about the day after tomorrow, getting to tomorrow is hard enough?
Do you even know why people do those self-damagings to themselves? To live, Jason. It's all so they can live. It's because they have nothing else. It's because for them there is nothing else.
So while you may find out lifestyles and lack of the Gift disgusting, that doesnt' mean we are disgusting or that there's anything wrong with what we believe. Most of us are just trying to get by ( ... )
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"John 14:6, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me." -Jesus.
One thing I've come to understand, Sammi- nothing, and I do mean absolutely nothing can happen in this world with my Will. No matter how much I may want something, "need" something, it cannot happen unless it is within God's Will. - and before you say, "so why does all this shit happen?", that's because of Free Will. Would you rather have a higher power control every movement you make, giving you no choice, ever? The reason there is so much evil in this world is because mankind chooses it. And it spreads out onto others.
So next time you decide it’s a good idea to broadcast your ignorance, think again.You call it ignorance, only because you do not understand. Yes, I may sound like I'm ( ... )
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You deal with your pain by cutting off your friends. Is THAT constructive?.....
All I see in you now is cowardice. Stop condenming, start doing something.
Matthew 7:4-5, "How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye', when all the time you had a plank in yours? You hypocrit, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
Why don't you try to actually understand what I'm doing? Why not actually go to church and NOT treat it like a burden?
Then you'll understand- I've found my Faith in Christ, and nothing is even near as important.
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I really don't understand this. People don't like to be shunned, they don't like to be told "your not good enough to be my freind". I don't know how that can help you grow as a person. physicly, spiritually, or otherwise. These are people you loved and cared about at one point. You knew them, and you are saying you can't live with them.
Jason, your not perfect,*digs out bible*
"If one falls down, his friend can help him up. But pity the man who
falls and has no one to help him up"
"ROM 13:10 Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the
fulfillment of the law."
"15:2 Each of us should please his neighbor for his good, to build him up."
........you aren't. you tell us we're wrong. you tell us that you are sad for us. we don't need that. just be there. we don't need to fufill your standards. We are all trying to be the best person we can be. Just becuase you feel you have life figured out don't mock the rest of us. and don't offer fake friendships.
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"If one falls down, his friend can help him up. But pity the man who falls and has no one to help him up" (Ecclesiastes 4, Verse 10) -More than likely talking about Christians, Believers. If one falls in his Faith alone, who is there to pick him up? If he has another Believer with Him (often times called "Accountablility Partners" in many churches), if one stumbles, the other(s) help him regain his pace.
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Jason, I've never heard a church call another Believer an "Accountability Partners" and I've been to my fair share of Catholic and non-Catholic churches.
Just because your church calls it that doesn't mean other churches call Christian friends "Accountability Partners." Don't generalize, stop using fallacies, just because one group or sect does calls a friend "Accountability Partners" doesn't mean the rest of Christianity does it.
Why wouldn't they just call a Christian friend a... I dunno... a friend?
An "Accountability Partner" is something more out of AA than church.
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I really don't understand this. People don't like to be shunned, they don't like to be told "your not good enough to be my freind". I don't know how that can help you grow as a person. physicly, spiritually, or otherwise. These are people you loved and cared about at one point. You knew them, and you are saying you can't live with them.
Jason, your not perfect,*digs out bible*
"If one falls down, his friend can help him up. But pity the man who
falls and has no one to help him up"
you wrote this earlier........why are you getting rid of your friends?
"ROM 13:10 Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the
fulfillment of the law."
"15:2 Each of us should please his neighbor for his good, to build him up."
........you aren't. you tell us we're wrong. you tell us that you are sad for us. we don't need that. just be there. we don't need to fufill your standards. We are all trying to be the best person we can be. Just becuase you feel you have life figured out don't mock the rest of us. and don't offer fake
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And if you don't want to hang out with me, alright.
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