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jalatattva October 30 2007, 19:27:42 UTC
I think the assumed gender role make a lot of women feel this way. I know I for one used to, and you know I was very masculine once upon a time.

I enjoy and identify myself as a women now, though.

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dragoncixi October 31 2007, 02:53:30 UTC
I swear to God we came from the same womb! I identify with men more than women myself. I have made no female friends here at college, and all the people I admire are men (Except for Peej, but she is pretty masculine).

I always feel like a dyke when I'm around a group of women, except for my friends because they're pretty manly, too.

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supperforsix October 31 2007, 06:44:40 UTC
Ani is pretty masculine. Not just her body form but the way she sings sometimes and what she wears and how she acts. She's had so much influence on me, more so than any man. But there's been no woman after her that has influenced me as much as her. Maybe Courtney Love but only in my attitude. I admire Courtney's attitude.

Everyone at uni thinks I'm a lesbian. It's like, "Oh, you're straight. I would never have known." Not that I'm butch either. If I start smoking again I'll definitly be more of a man because I smoke like one. I was in my tutorial two days ago and I was talking about the Futurists and how they glorified war and thought it was a valid tool for cleansing human society. Midway through I realised I was behaving and talking like a man would. An old man who has spent too much time sitting between bookshelves that house 500 years of Art history or something.

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dragoncixi October 31 2007, 19:19:12 UTC
I prefer manly women than girly women.

How did we become manly women? I have my assumptions, but maybe it has to do with genetics?

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supperforsix November 1 2007, 11:10:08 UTC
I think I just hate the way the majority of females seem to behave nowadays and vowed to never behave as such.

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a_fallen_rose October 31 2007, 22:47:32 UTC
hmm..
this is an interesting entry. do you think about the socialization of gender at all? i could write a damn 847289421984 page essay on it, but basically, i think that the way gender is socialized and normalized, personality traits/mannerisms are defined as feminine/masculine, and if people exhibit traits that are different than expected of his/her gender, he/she is made to feel (internally and externally) as if he/she is not acting feminine or masculine enough. does that make sense? do you think this could be close, or does it feel like something different entirely?
for example- sometimes i feel more masculine b/c i'm independent, agressive, blunt, proud, loud, angry, etc. and then i remind myself that these traits do not make me masculine, it is what i was raised to believe men/masculinity is supposed to be.

ps- you wouldnt want to mail a copy of the new radiohead cd to a poor working-gal, would you? my address is the same. (but dont feel pressured to say yes!)

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supperforsix November 1 2007, 11:09:17 UTC
It definitly makes sense. My father always told me not to put my hands in my pockets because it was a manly thing to do and I didn't do it for the longest time even though that's one of the things I love doing. I think the way I should behave and dress has greatly been influenced by my father, which is why I feel so uncomfortable dressing feminine.

I will send it to you as soon as I can.

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daisakura November 1 2007, 12:29:38 UTC
Very interesting topic Mariam. Yeah I can understand a little of where you're coming from I think.

Haha I swear I was such a 'boy' when I was younger. I only ever wanted remote control cars, dinosaur models, gi-joes and Jurassic Park trading cards. So many things are labelled 'male' or 'female' though when they really shouldn't be.

Oh and I'm about to go watch the Good Girl right now ^_^

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supperforsix November 1 2007, 12:40:16 UTC
I was a girly girl when I was little.

I'm a guy now.

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daisakura November 2 2007, 00:28:15 UTC
Ha go figure.

Oh the Good Girl. It was so wonderful. Depressingly wonderful. Wah Holden, his life really was like it was out of Catcher in the Rye o_o I want to give him a hug. Though err I don't think it would solve anything for him considering. But it would make me feel good to be holding Jake Gyllenhaal at least... ;p

And hey Mariam your letter was beautiful, I ♥ you too.

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supperforsix November 3 2007, 07:06:54 UTC
I'm glad you found the letter. It was tucked into a discreet place, it was.

Doesn't this movie have the most depressing ending you've ever seen. She should have chosen Holden.

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susannah November 4 2007, 13:20:07 UTC
This poem by Dar Williams comes to mind:

When I was a BoyI won't forget when Peter Pan came to my house, took my hand ( ... )

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