Dr who

[surliminal]

Finally got a chance to see it.
Omg. That was ALL RIGHT. In fact it was more than all right. I went OMG, OMG ! At the end. When did I last do that re Dr Who? I was actually gripped.

Comments

[steer]

I think a lot of the non-canon -- especially the book Lungbarrow, has made explicit Hartnell is the first doctor. The most obvious explanation for me is that we know the Valyard (trial of a time lord) is a dark incarnation between his 12th and final (don't know if that is inclusive). The Valyard hasn't been mentioned in New Who at all AFAIK until this episode.

I think it would be dramatically fair (indeed clever) to say tjat seomtimes "awful things have to be done by good men" and then temper that with "and sometimes good men go so far with that they become awful."

[londonkds]

I do think that he's going to be 8.5 but I think that the idea you're worried about will be explicitly rejected. I suspect that the later Doctors' denial of him will be a bad thing linked to their assorted damage from the War, and that Ten and Eleven will end up accepting him.