Character Loyalty

[sweet_anise]

Sometimes I think I watch TV differently than most of the world, and I'm not sure my way is healthy.

I'd sort of assumed that my next LJ post would be about my new home state, new job, new apartment, new personal and fiscal responsibility... you know, SOMETHING about graduating, moving hundreds of miles away, and beginning the first chapter of my

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What is this silly word limit LJ it's only like 100 words more

[giallarhorn]

That wasn't nearly potentially alienating or self disparaging as you had made it seem. I was expecting a lot worse, ngl.

IDK though talking about adult life and what's going on that is such a revolutionary thought but methinks you should but that's just myself and I

I think that a lot of times, stories and media are developed to be about a specific person, even when that person does impact other people around themselves and they too develop, and sometimes it may end up like ASoIaF, rarely. But I think it tends to be more of a case that a lot of people tend to pick favorites early on, and cheer on Character X.

I KNEW IT ALL ALONG YOU WERE ALWAYS A ROSE FANI don't think that it is realistic for people should be expected to bond emotionally to every potentially awesome character that flits across the screen, particularly with Doctor Who, given the nature of show and companions. Being able to recognize their traits or the character as being awesome on an intellectual level is enough, I feel like. But I think it is normal for people to

Part 2 of something that was probably too long and nonsensical and rambly, whoops

[giallarhorn]

IMHO, I don't think that Moffat will ever really go down the route of Better Than Rose Role, since it seems to me that River was meant to fulfill that role, and that more or less dropped the ball

Re: Part 2 of something that was probably too long and nonsensical and rambly, whoops

[magic_7_words]

I support these two comments, for two reasons. 1) I was going to suggest you try thinking of Eleven as a different character who inherited the TARDIS and the memories. That way nobody can possibly step on Rose's toes, because they've never even met Nine or Ten. Aw, heck--Rose got two regenerations all to herself! (Ten traveled with Martha and Donna, but he pined after Rose the whole dang time, didn't he?) River can't touch that. And keep in mind, too, that the Doctor's various relationships over regenerations have as much to do with his own personality/how he expresses affection--more openly across the board, in Eleven's case--as how deep that affection goes. Ten would never have married a companion because he'd've been all like "you will die soon wah," whereas Eleven's more like, heck, why not

Re: Part 2 of something that was probably too long and nonsensical and rambly, whoops

[giallarhorn]

It's more or less a lot like of what Ten said to Wilfred- with the regeneration, a new man goes sauntering off. But it may be harder to bond to the new companions now, mostly because Moffat doesn't really do character or emotion well.

(Eleven's also technically been married to multiple people, if we're assuming he went through with Monroe, and there's the issue of Idris)

[jessicaqueen]

Yeah, I think I'm fairly similar to you in this respect. Even when there's a true ensemble cast as opposed to just a main character/pairing and a bunch of secondary characters who are mainly there as support, I never really connect with more than one or two of the characters. I can like other characters well enough, don't get me wrong, but it's a more superficial enjoyment rather than an emotional sort of bond. And if they mess with my boy or my girl, my claws will come out.

[sweet_anise]

"Superficial enjoyment"-- that's a good phrase for it.

[fogsblue]

In some ways, I'm very much the same. Though I have noticed for me it depends on the show.

Character development is always something I want to see, no matter the show or the size of the ensemble. All the characters should develop.

Sometimes, I care about so many of them. For me that's something like Fringe, they're all my characters. I can't pick favourites, I can't hope for the good of one at the expense of all the rest. To me, they're a set.

However, other times I tend to favour a specific one or two characters and get frustrated if they are messed with. Such as Rose. She (and yes, Nine) are the reason I started watching DW and part of the reason I fell in love with the show. More than the Doctor, Rose was mine. So when she got messed with, I got annoyed (eg. GitF

[sweet_anise]

Don't be sorry! I'm always proud to prompt rambling.

I can't say I've ever enjoyed River, but I did like Amy more in early S5, before I realized she wasn't going to show any consistent development...

[fogsblue]

Yeah, I failed miserably on the ever liking River. I told myself I'd give her a chance. I did. Still disliked her character.

Amy, I didn't mind her early on. Then, as you say... When I realised she was never going to develop I just got more and more frustrated. Now, I know the Ponds are leaving and I can't bring myself to care in the slightest...