Kalicia Breakfast Club 5x12 -- The One With the Dashed Hopes

[sweetjamielee]

Hey clubbers, your opportunity to discuss your crushing disappointment starts now. Will your icy heart thaw in time for the show returning on March 9?

Comments

[mickaela82]

I can't believe I got sucked into actually hoping. Gah...I hate myself right now! Not that I've ever wanted KALINDA to be the one making the first step yet again.

On the other hand I don not "NOW"think the Kings are sadistic bastards. I've kinda thought that since September. Now I've just got confirmation. I just...I can't even. For my sanity...I'll probably just give it up all together. It's now officially been a season of the two never even interacting!

This is ridiculous! So LG& FA get to be opposites every friggin week, but a Kalicia interraction is unrealistic! Well, F#ck!

[schwarmerei1]

In terms of the episode overall, well I quite enjoyed the comedy of errors, even though (as has been typical of S5 IMO) the writers were a little in love with their own joke. But, sheesh, am I over the Willicia show! Can't there please be something about the other relationships on the show?

I had no faith that there would be A/K, so I had no hopes to dash. I'm just relieved (and was so once the press release was out) that Kalinda's repair job was with Cary and not Jenna.

Aside: I am loathing Jenna with violent passion. If we had to have Kalinda/shady law enforcement why OH WHY couldn't they bring back Lana? Jill Flint is done with shooting the first order of her new series and is cooling her heels in NYC. This storyline might actually have some interest if they wove Lana into it. Throw in her previous background investigating Peter's political corruption, tie her into the vote fraud, and we'd have a deliciously intriguing mess of relationships. I weep for the wasted opportunity!

*phew* Now that I'm done with that rant, I'm glad

[sweetjamielee]

"Gotta love #CaryAgos handling #Kalinda. #mattczuchry #ArchiePanjabi"

This infuriated me too!! Is that really how the writers feel about her? That she somehow needs or deserves to be put in her place? No. No writers, I do not love it. I do not like seeing the only decent-hearted character who is desperate for connection and friendship being put in a position of having to beg for it and having to choose between that or being good at her job. Is Will "handling" Alicia when he is messing with her in court? Is Peter "handling" her when he calms her little feeling by lying about the voter fraud? I somehow do not think they'd use such implied misogynistic language with their main character.

[schwarmerei1]

I don't even think the misogyny is implied! Handling is what you do with animals, not people. And no, they would not say it about Alicia. This might be cynical and sound defensive, but I think it's also because Kalinda is queer and a WOC. Sorry - I think those issues lurk in that kind of language.

I like the scenes as written and played -- or at least I liked how I received them! Kalinda shouldn't have to beg, no. But sometimes in real life one has to suck something up and let it be water under the bridge to allow a situation to move on. I am happy for Kalinda to do this rather than continue in a miserable friendless existence. If it becomes a relationship dependent on Kalinda making concession after concession and Cary never reciprocating that's different.

There was a bit more along the same line from RK at the TCA's:

Regarding the scene in Sunday’s episode that hinted at a rekindling of a romance between Kalinda and Cary, King said, “It’s a version of the hate that Will and Alica have, especially because they’re at [different]

[schwarmerei1]

Actually, in America it's common usage to use the verb handle in reference to people, and it's applied to all ages, genders, and ethnicities. I can easily see Eli saying that he'll handle Alicia. (And I can easily see Alicia saying she'll handle some client of hers.) People are also employed as handlers, whose entire job is to handle somebody (usually a celebrity, athlete or such).

I find the "Cary has balls" phrase far more annoying, since it's gender-based.

[demoka]

Well... I guess it would be healthier for Kalinda to rekindle a friendship like the one she had with Cary, less expectations.. Well, in comparison to with Alicia. Also, less worry about saying/doing something that setting the friend off into a spaz out! XP You know what I mean!

I wasn't disappointed because I had forgotten about the "rumour", but I would not have gone into the episode hoping anyways, I hope!

[anonymous]

Honestly, I'm so glad that I don't watch this show anymore. I mean, I miss it, I really, really do, and I wish there would be a way that I can watch it again. But right now the best thing I can do is to stay away from the TV as far as I can. After I had been hoping for a Kalicia scene in episodes 4x12, 4x13, 4x14, 4x15, 4x16, 4x17, 4x18, 4x19, 4x20, 4x21 and 4x22 I decided that I couldn't do this anymore. Well, I still enjoyed the show but I couldn't bear the disappointment and frustration anymore. If I imagine I still watched the show, I would have waited for a tiny little Kalicia moment in episodes 5x1, 5x2, 5x3, 5x4, 5x5, 5x6, 5x7, 5x8, 5x9, 5x10, 5x11 and now 5x12. Gosh, I would definitely need therapy by now

[mickaela82]

I haven't watched S5 either. And yet...I somehow managed to get my hopes up. That's why I think that I probably will give up on it completely. My complete loathing for JM and The Kings will probably prevent me from enjoying any other characters/storylines altogether. And in the end, it's not worth it.

I don't know if it will actually happen, but so far not only I haven't watched any episodes, but I find no real desire to watch it in the future!

TGW at the TCA's

[schwarmerei1]

Robert and Michelle King were part of the CBS Drama Showrunners Panel at the Television Critics Association Press Tour and received a lot of the press attention. Below are some tweets about it and a couple of articles

Re: TGW at the TCA's

[randomizer]

King added that the ongoing challenge with Kalinda is “sometimes she can’t live in other stories,”

Yup. It's difficult to live in other stories when you're not allowed on the same set as the lead!

Re: TGW at the TCA's

[schwarmerei1]

Gosh I wish someone had followed up that comment with a question about the lack of Kalicia scenes. I suspect Jace was the only one present who'd think to ask it, and given I suspect he knows full well why he's not likely to put them on the spot in public.

Re: TGW at the TCA's

[teamsharma]

Exactly.