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[yahvah]

I read this ridiculous article and thought I'd make a parody after pastorlenny's own heart for y'all. Clearly we have no choice but to raise the debt-ceiling indefinitely. We have all the justification we need

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[yahvah]

I've got $200 in Canadian maple leaf that says you're about to be joined by a bunch of other people whose sole purpose is to make assumptions about posters. Let's try to refrain from gambling with non-U.S. dollar-denominated coin.

[yahvah]

The dollar denomination is what you get when you give something a legal tender in payment of debt. That's probably why you don't get it.

[meus_ovatio]

I don't see anything here other than the Secret Service restating and claiming its legal, historical and traditional jurisdiction.

[yahvah]

The revised stance is tied to the Liberty Dollar being determined in a federal court to violate federal counterfeiting statutes. Liberty Dollars, metallic medallic pieces, were privately promoted as a form of currency that could be used in commerce as an alternative to Federal Reserve notes.

Buy sovereigns!

[meus_ovatio]

Statements by officials for those two federal law enforcement agencies seem to reverse the position taken in comments released from the United States Attorney’s Office in Charlotte, N.C., and published in Coin World in April, that mere possession of Liberty Dollars did not constitute a violation of any federal statute.
The law enforcement agencies and their jurisdictions are not defined by the Attorney's office.

[yahvah]

Yeah dude. That's cool that you can read for me. Have you actually followed any of the decisions about why the United States is going to war against a minority of its citizens over something which is, in fact, constitutional?

[kylinrouge]

Australian and Canadian bullion is owned by U.S. citizens and not subject to confiscation.

These are not competing currencies.

[yahvah]

How advantageous for our military agenda.

[kylinrouge]

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[stewstewstewdio]

Where are the numismatics and extremism tags for this?

[yahvah]

I contend this is the position all Ron Paul haters must maintain.

From the outside looking in

[brockulfsen]

Having carefully considered the matter, the problem with von NutHatch's coin like objects is twofold.

1/ The contain the words United States of America or the acronym U.S.A. in conjunction with a denomination in Dollars.

2/ They are promoted to be used as a currency.

Stop doing either of those things and they'd be free and clear.

Based on the various scrip currencies, alternative currencies, local currencies, eCash systems and other alternatives to Legal Tender in use across the USA, it would appear that dropping the U.S.A. would largely solve their problems.

If they simply called them Liberty Dollars without the [U.S.A.] it would possibly work. Marking them Not Legal Tender would certainly work.

Then there would be the question of they way they were distributed and used, and the need for the idiots using them to account for the value for tax purposes.

Re: From the outside looking in

[mrsilence]

Aren't they producing them on the premise that their constitutional interpretation is that they ARE legal tender?

And furthermore, that greenbacks are in fact, NOT constitutionally legal tender?

Re: From the outside looking in

[the_rukh]

Yes. The guy got in trouble for:
"“Barter is an equal and knowing exchange,” which the Liberty Dollar was proven in court not to be, Rose said."

Basically, falsely advertising them as legal tender.

The Secret Service's official position is that if you try to use them as legal tender, they will be confiscated. The one guy caused some confusion by not being sure of the official position yet and guessing and being wrong.

The rest of the article is paranoid people being paranoid.