Agreed but if you're going to kill underage kids shouldn't you let them kill themselves with drugs and alcohol and tobacco as well? I agree with the supreme court ruling because I think you should be a minor under 18. You can argue what age makes a minor, but laws should correlate on that age. So no zappin' 'em until they can booze up first.
No, perhaps not. But truthfully, that's a more persuasive argument than the one in the majority decision.
My point is more that IF its ok to kill adults for doing something, then it's ok to kill young adults for it. 16 & 17 year-olds aren't kids, they are young adults, I get so pissed at people calling them kids. They are young, yes. They are stupid, yes (I know I was). But they can and should be responsible for not killing other people. The other half of this is that if it's not Ok to execute young people, then it's not Ok to execute any people. But every now and then comes a character so heinous, a BTK or timothy Mcveigh, that I'd just as soon leave the law on the books. but that's really beside the main point.
Mostly, I just had to make this post so I could vent. That way when I write nasty letters to my representatives, I'll at least be coherent.
I agree that we should stop making laws to systematically turn young adults into non-entities, but I also worry about our young adults. It seems like our generation really enjoys not taking responsibility for anything and practically opting out of the political process altogether. When they pretty much don't care about their rights at all, they don't notice when adults start taking them away. (I might be just a little cynical about our generation right now because of some stupid things friends of friends have been doing recently.) I think if young people were willing to accept the consequences of the stupid decisions they made, our rights wouldn't get taken away so easily
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Are you talking about the must-have-a-permit-for-six-months law?
It's maybe three years old, I fell under it because I didn't get my license until I was 18 but none of my age-mates who learned to drive at 16 like normal people did.
Wasn't there also a clause restricting how many non-family members could be in the car of a 16 year old driver. I think my brother got his license under the new law.
The Supreme Court case is doing nothing but enforcing some consistency. If someone isn't mature enough to take responsibility for voting, entering legally binding contracts and buying pictures of naked people then I certainly couldn't tell them they're old enough to die for any crime.
As for being non-entities, I'm too sick to get as angry as I need to be in that discussion, so please carry on without me.
Well, to be honest, I stopped caring about young adults being non-entities at the exact same moment I could vote. I think that there has to be an arbitrary point (or points) at which certain rights and responsibilities begin and end. If you aren't completely responsible for your actions then you shouldn't have complete freedom either. My objection to mandatory drug testing for minors to get a driver's license is that it will be a huge waste of money and that it will just motivate minors to drive without permits or licenses which is already a law that's not really enforceable. As for your rights, driving an automobile is not a right and the government can ask whatever it wants of you in exchange for getting a license; I just think that the government shouldn't ask much because it's a huge waste of money.
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Scant comfort though :(
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My point is more that IF its ok to kill adults for doing something, then it's ok to kill young adults for it. 16 & 17 year-olds aren't kids, they are young adults, I get so pissed at people calling them kids. They are young, yes. They are stupid, yes (I know I was). But they can and should be responsible for not killing other people. The other half of this is that if it's not Ok to execute young people, then it's not Ok to execute any people. But every now and then comes a character so heinous, a BTK or timothy Mcveigh, that I'd just as soon leave the law on the books. but that's really beside the main point.
Mostly, I just had to make this post so I could vent. That way when I write nasty letters to my representatives, I'll at least be coherent.
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It's maybe three years old, I fell under it because I didn't get my license until I was 18 but none of my age-mates who learned to drive at 16 like normal people did.
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As for being non-entities, I'm too sick to get as angry as I need to be in that discussion, so please carry on without me.
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