Meeeeeeeeeeme

[tarion_anarore]

I was tempted to have my excuses, but keep them mental, where they wouldn't count, but I've decided that I have nothing better to do (that's a lie) than this meme. (Okay, so really I should be doing the reading for my seminar tomorrow morning, but I just got back from International Business, which gave me a massive headache. Interesting stuff, but

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[heartofoshun]

Oh! I love your choices. Very satisfying (for me) waste of your time

[tarion_anarore]

It was a satisfying waste of my time for me as well. ;) (Fandom almost always is.)

I try to block Luthien from memory too. I read the question and thought "But I don't really hate anyone, do I? ...........Oh, yes, yes I do!" The original Mary-sue. And hey, Valar dis-ing IS canon!

I get around the necessity of OC's by mostly writing introspective-type crap. ;) Or my favorite cop-out, nameless people! 0:) I console myself with thinking that writing Caranthir is almost like writing an OC, since there's almost nothing said about him in the books. Yep, shafted in both fanfic and the Sil (though only having a small part in the Sil might actually be good, in a way. Really, who wants every single idiotic idea/action of theirs outlined in detail, like Turin? ;).

Admittedly, Fingon is probably a better long-term choice, since he's more sane than the Feanorians. Somewhat. Maybe. I guess picking Caranthir just gives me my dose of the wild side. ;) (I wish I had some sort of legitimate reason, like working on a story....*whistles innocently*)

[dawn_felagund]

Finrod says that he's not surprised. His ass alone is reason to love him right away.

On Beren and Luthien, I've always found the consensus to be that this story just ... doesn't work. Especially among hardcore Silm fans, in my experience, unless I'm just tainted from hanging out with a bunch of Feanatic. :^P But, in a way, I feel bad for Tolkien because I know he thought Beren/Luthien was the most beautiful, mythic, perfect story to end all stories, but many of his fans seem not to feel that way. I just imagine fifty years from now popping onto ff.net and seeing most fans say, "Yeah, we hate Meryth." Provided anyone besides me and a select few equally crazy people ever even know who Meryth is! :^P

[tarion_anarore]

Finrod says that he's not surprised. His ass alone is reason to love him right away.

I didn't have the illustrated version. .........................Yeah. Sure.

(You know, I re-read your postcard from Puerto Rico the other day while going through my Stuff; Finrod was harassing people even then!)

But, in a way, I feel bad for Tolkien because I know he thought Beren/Luthien was the most beautiful, mythic, perfect story to end all stories, but many of his fans seem not to feel that way.

Maybe - well, almost certainly! ;) - I hang out with a bunch of Feanatics too. Though when I read opinions on the Facebook group I'm on, Beren/Luthien seems to be popular (and Turin. O.o). I was thinking, "Anyone out there not like Beren & Luthien? Bueller?"

I think it doesn't work because it's the Most Perfect Story of all Perfect Stories. It has odds of happening around 98-1 (if we're nice), and it does not fit at all with the feel of the rest of the Silmarillion. The characters *coughLuthien* are too black and white. She also seems to have

[dawn_felagund]

You pretty much summed up my opinion on Beren & Luthien. I always get the feeling that if that story wasn't in the book but was found by a fan and posted on ff.net, taken in the context of the rest of the Silmarillion, I can imagine all the trolls there going, "omg so ooc thsi is not cannon at ALL!!1!11one!11!" Tolkien's world has always come off to me as magical without being overtly so, i.e. without people turning into bats or lulling dark lords to sleep with stripper-pole dances or how many freakin' times does she magically heal Beren? Turin needed her! The most overt instance of magic that I can think of after that is the duel of songs between Finrod and Sauron, and even that is more grounded ... I mean, it's not like Finrod and Sauron break into a fight with Magical Mystical Lightsabres or anything.

Also, Finrod asked me to offer you this icon of him singing to a group of scruffy men in need of baths after lurking in the bushes in watching them sleep.

[tarion_anarore]

Tolkien's world has always come off to me as magical without being overtly so, i.e. without people turning into bats or lulling dark lords to sleep with stripper-pole dances or how many freakin' times does she magically heal Beren?

Exactly! As much as I love Harry Potter, that sort of spell-casting, incantation-chanting magic just does not work for me in Tolkienland. And yes, it was so a stripper-pole dance! And totally lame to boot. More like she shocked him into stupor by taking off her bra. Maybe if Maedhros had just whipped it out, he'd have been able to regain at least one silmaril. Unless Morgoth only swings towards girls. With the Duel of Songs, it has enough Real-Type Stuff to make it believable - or at least believable to the point of accepting the gist of the story, even if one might wonder if it's straight fact or it there's a little poetic illustration.

...Are you sure Finrod and Sauron didn't break into a fight with their Magical Mystical Lightsabres?? O_o (Yeah. I went there

[ann_arien]

He, he! This is an excellent meme that I'll have to mark and have a go at myself. It's as good a reason as any to poke my heavily neglected elven muses, since I am totally immersed in the world of anime. The funny thing is... if you'd replace Caranthir with Feanaro, in your answers, you'd be getting mine. ;D

[tarion_anarore]

Poking elf muses is good!