reason #2453454 that i hate conservatives

Oct 31, 2005 17:37

New Vaccine nearly 100% effective against HPV Considering that 80% of our generation will be HPV positive by the age of 30...fuck the politicians whose morality gets in the way of our health. I can see the debate regarding making it mandatory, but since it is such a common virus and now nearly 100% preventable, it seems riduculous to me that ( Read more... )

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jette November 1 2005, 01:55:13 UTC
Conservatives are not standing between you and your health in this case. In reality, it's the insurance companies who drive vaccination use, and pharmaceutical companies lobby really hard to make all the vaccines "mandatory." Trust me, I had to fight to keep my children from getting the Hep B vaccine earlier than I wanted. (I wanted them immunized at middle school age, not at birth, because I felt it was a new vaccine and I wanted to be more conservative in terms of not shooting their tiny baby bodies with vaccines that they wouldn't need for another 13 years or more.) Hep B is mainly transmitted through sex and needle sharing - the conservatives who are "against" HPV vaccine are mounting a public relations campaign, not any meaningful healh policy action plan.

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jette November 1 2005, 18:28:50 UTC
I totally see your point, but my argument is ( ... )

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tecknomania November 1 2005, 18:52:42 UTC
I hate LJ and it's logging in/out protocol. You sent me the damn email, why make me post anonymously? WHY GIVE ME A PLACE TO REPLY IF YOU ARE GOING TO AUTOMATICALLY LOG ME OUT???

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scosol November 1 2005, 20:17:36 UTC
check the "never log out" button :)

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scosol November 1 2005, 02:03:16 UTC
> "Although the vaccine will not become available until next year at the earliest, activists on both sides have begun maneuvering to influence how widely the immunizations will be employed."

You should have expected the religious-right wackos to do that-
But it's not being "blocked" or anything yet- this is just discussion-

On the point of making it *mandatory*, I would agree with them-, for government-interfering-in-my-life reasons-
Anyway- wait and see if it's *actually* blocked, I'm betting there's not a chance :)

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scosol November 1 2005, 18:46:16 UTC
I agree with the government get out of my life argument, but as my longer reply to Jette says:

8 out of 10 of us already have (or will contract in the next few years) HPV. The next generation of kids are pretty much *guaranteed* to get it unless we stop it. Ignorant parents may not make the right choice for their kid, thus subjecting them to a sexually diminished life (if female). Cervical cancer is no joke. You can't have kids. You are in pain when you have sex. Radiation kills your ovaries. Which means your hormones cease to exist and you enter menopause, which really really seems to suck. HPV is the main cause of cervical cancer and 3000+ women a year die from it. Oh, and once you get HPV, there is no turning back. So in order to protect people, they *must* be vaccinated before they become sexually active.

If there was ever a good disease to have mandatory vaccines for, this would be it. :-)

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scosol November 1 2005, 20:06:47 UTC
Hmm yeah- I've been thinking more about it- and it's already regulated that kids have to have certain vaccines before they're allowed in to school isnt it?
Only the most hardcore fundy xtians home school their kids specifically so they won't have to vaccinate them-
I suppose it should be "mandatory" then in the same sense as the others- prolly just for girls

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bifrosty2k November 1 2005, 02:19:53 UTC
IMHO if you're too dumb to use protection or whatever, you shouldn't be doing it. Although honestly I hate legislation against stuff like this, if people wanna be vaccinated for something, they should be able to.

Separation of church & state my ass.

Exactly! Read this.

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littleetoile November 1 2005, 15:37:22 UTC
The reason why HPV is so rampant in our generation is that it *can't* be protected against in most cases. The warts are not restricted to the genitals themselves and can in fact be anywhere in the general genital region, and thus cannot be prevented from spreading during sex by just using a condom or other traditional forms of protection. So unless you want to start covering yourself in cellophane while having sex, you're shit out of luck.

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if still interested... tecknomania November 1 2005, 18:51:17 UTC
See my above replies, please. :-)

Thank you.

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Re: if still interested... bifrosty2k November 1 2005, 19:06:51 UTC
enh, I'm still all for personal responsibility at the expense of others :)

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