A lot of people point at the good things people do and call that God's work and point at the bad things and call those the things committed by people only. I submit that it is the people who are capable of both good and bad. Any good that people do through religion, what little there is in my opinion, is work of the goodness in people themselves. They're not giving themselves enough credit.
It's true that people almost invariably come up with some sort of higher power to explain the unexplained, but that's exactly why they invent it. That's just one of the coping mechanisms humans have for dealing with things they don't understand. That and it's often a method of control for those in power. So I would say it is a "common fault", but it's hardly necessary. One needs to only look at the stars on a clear night sky to know there are things bigger and more amazing than us
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Avoir réponse à toutwahcrysobMarch 3 2007, 21:59:37 UTC
You seem to be defending a person's right to believe in science and God. Personally, I feel that the right to believe in God and science is what needs to be defended. Seems to me that scientists are never going around telling people that God and science aren't compatible, but religious people seem to be telling me that they aren't all the time.
God and science are perfectly compatible. Science doesn't really care about God, because you can't disprove God, so why worry about it? The day that hard evidence surfaces that can be used to prove or disprove the existence of a higher power, is the day that scientists will actually come out and say God doesn't exist.
People seem to misread science disproving aspects of the Bible as science trying to disprove God. The Bible was written by men, who are fallible, and frankly, religion used to change with the times, there's no reason it can't still do that.
Take intelligent design for example. It's a perfectly acceptable theological idea that meshes belief in a higher power with the
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Avoir réponse à tout, deuxwahcrysobMarch 3 2007, 21:58:20 UTC
But humanity has a really hard time not looking around and trying to make sense of things, and this is where science comes into play. As more and more of the universe is opened up for us to ponder and, more importantly, study, we need increasingly complex systems in order to understand what is becoming an increasingly complex universe. Science changes very quickly and very easily to do just that, it allows us to investigate the world around us. Occasionally, what we learn makes us rethink our religion in order for it to function which is totally acceptable.
As far as atheism goes, I'm a very laid back atheist, I like religion, I know what good things it's capable of, it's jut not for me. As far as I'm concerned, religion is a tool to make life easier, to give people something to cling too when things go bad and to make themselves feel better. As such, religion is a creation of humanity and is subservient to humanity's needs, and must change as humanity sees fit, namely to change with the times
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Re: Avoir réponse à tout, deuxteera67March 4 2007, 23:12:34 UTC
Religion is such a huge argument, cuz there are so many sides to it. So many things to take into account. There is so much I want to say, and comment on, and all I can think about is how cool Jasons title looks. :) So let me just say I enjoy sharing my point of view and, reading your's and Eriks point of view, and even though I disagree with many things and agree with many also.
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It's true that people almost invariably come up with some sort of higher power to explain the unexplained, but that's exactly why they invent it. That's just one of the coping mechanisms humans have for dealing with things they don't understand. That and it's often a method of control for those in power. So I would say it is a "common fault", but it's hardly necessary. One needs to only look at the stars on a clear night sky to know there are things bigger and more amazing than us ( ... )
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God and science are perfectly compatible. Science doesn't really care about God, because you can't disprove God, so why worry about it? The day that hard evidence surfaces that can be used to prove or disprove the existence of a higher power, is the day that scientists will actually come out and say God doesn't exist.
People seem to misread science disproving aspects of the Bible as science trying to disprove God. The Bible was written by men, who are fallible, and frankly, religion used to change with the times, there's no reason it can't still do that.
Take intelligent design for example. It's a perfectly acceptable theological idea that meshes belief in a higher power with the ( ... )
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As far as atheism goes, I'm a very laid back atheist, I like religion, I know what good things it's capable of, it's jut not for me. As far as I'm concerned, religion is a tool to make life easier, to give people something to cling too when things go bad and to make themselves feel better. As such, religion is a creation of humanity and is subservient to humanity's needs, and must change as humanity sees fit, namely to change with the times ( ... )
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