Global warming

Jun 26, 2006 22:31

"The debate [on global warming] in the scientific community is over." - Al Gore in an interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC

"There Is No 'Consensus' on Global Warming" - Title of opinion piece on page A14 of the Mon 6-26 WSJ, by Richard Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Sciences at MIT

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kelglitter June 27 2006, 18:12:28 UTC
Have you seen An Inconvenient Truth? It opens at Boardman's Art Theater on Friday.

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tehuatzi June 27 2006, 23:12:44 UTC
Haven't yet. I want to. The subtitle of the opinion piece is, "An inconvenient truth for Al Gore."

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kelglitter July 1 2006, 12:48:13 UTC
Hey btw, here is why Al Gore says the debate is over in the scientific community:

"There is no controversy about these facts," Gore says in the film. "Out of 925 recent articles in peer-review scientific journals about global warming, there was no disagreement. Zero."

I think I see his point. If nobody is researching and presenting findings to the contrary in peer-review journals, even if people want to mince his words about the controversy being over, it kind of is.

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tehuatzi July 1 2006, 21:02:42 UTC
Wish that link to the article was functional - he does a good job of addressing the misreading, misinterpretation, and selective attention that leads to such conclusions. For example, regarding the "zero disagreement" out of the 900-odd journal articles, Lindzen clarifies,

More recently, a study in the journal Science by the social scientist Nancy Oreskes claimed that a search of the ISI Web of Knowledge Database for the years 1993 to 2003 under the key words "global climate change" produced 928 articles, all of whose abstracts supported what she referred to as the consensus view. A British social scientist, Benny Peiser, checked her procedure and found that only 913 of the 928 articles had abstracts at all, and that only 13 of the remaining 913 explicitly endorsed the so-called consensus view. Several actually opposed it.

This kind of carelessness and mishandling of data earns my disrespect. For crying out loud, with tools these days like the Web of Knowledge, which make lit surveys so stinking easy (back in my day, we had to ( ... )

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WSJ 3rdsonofgus June 28 2006, 16:01:11 UTC
I always learn a lot from your posts, Dave.
Usually about how much I DON'T know! I have
been trying to keep up with this global warming
stuff, but the link to the Wall St. Journal was
for subscribers only, so I bypassed it this time.
I guess I'll have to rely more on your insights.
Thanks again.

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Re: WSJ tehuatzi July 1 2006, 20:06:46 UTC
Hmm. I thought that link was supposed to be available to nonsubscribers. I'll see if I can fix that.

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Re: WSJ ca_chick July 2 2006, 03:53:49 UTC
I have to admit, i too rely on you and your other scientist friends to inform me of the latest developments and controversies. I usually take the time to read the links and such, but not always. It's kinda nice being able to learn from those who are scientifically minded and are thus more analytical in their assessments of the arguments.

Thanks.

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tehuatzi July 1 2006, 21:20:12 UTC
Try this link instead.

Or, if that fails, how about this one?

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