28 Tevet, 5761. [כ״ח בְּטֵבֵת תשס״א ]

[terry_schtiwl]

I find myself in my old bedroom at home, my old stereo playing old songs I've never even heard, with my parents purposely not passing by the doorway. Shadows are afraid here. -- I've been here I don't know how long- for a week, a month, an hour? I don't know

Comments

Private to Terry

[freakedwithjet]

I don't know how this relates to your predictions of responses (or which one I am) but why would you want people to like you more? They're all arseholes anyway.

If it's any consolation, my life is fucked up too.

Private to Pansy

[terry_schtiwl]

While I completely agree with you, I think you've missed my point. I don't really care if people like me or not. I don't have time for them.

Who said it's fucked up? I think it's time for people to seriously reconsider their definitions.

Private to Terry

[freakedwithjet]

Fair enough.

I say it's fucked up. I should know. And my definition of fucked up is very simple. My life is in pieces, it has been destroyed. Ergo, Fucked Up. Clear?

Private to Pansy

[terry_schtiwl]

Well, mostly. I don't like it when people say, "I should know," though. It just sounds arrogant and ignorant. Why should you know? Why shouldn't I know? See what I mean?

Private to the Philosopher

[sightlesswolf]

I don't think I do know what you mean. How does whether or not S chose to do something pertain to whether or not he could have chosen to do it? I could've done loads of things even just in the past week, that I've chosen not to do for various reasons.

Please don't nail your feet to the floorboards. The idea sends a chill up my spine like you would not believe.

~ June Connors

Private to June Connors

[terry_schtiwl]

Because S is only free if he could have chosen otherwise. Is that what you're asking?

I wouldn't literally. At least not today. My state of mind is surprisingly stable - relative to how it usually is, I do mean.

Private to Terry Boot

[sightlesswolf]

Not exactly. He could have chosen otherwise. He didn't, but that doesn't negate the fact that he could. So he's still free, isn't he?

Well, that's good to hear. I'm against the literal nailing of feet to the floor as a general rule.

~ June

Private to June Connors

[terry_schtiwl]

No, no. -- Well, I mean, yes, that's what I meant. He could have chosen otherwise, and even if he didn't, there was a choice, and therefore he's free. I hadn't gotten to the part about how that doesn't exactly work - if you think of things like Determinism, not to be confused with Fatalism -- and all other sorts of -isms.

Quite wise.

Private to Terry

[deirdre_ivy]

I think we talked about this before...definitions, in and of themselves, are the bane (sustenance?) of philosophy.

If S had chosen to do otherwise, of course she would have done otherwise--for she can, according to Schopenhauer, only make that one decision on that matter in that instant forevermore.

But then, did she really choose one or the other? Or did human primacy and desire's preeminence over intellect deprive S of even that one choice guaranteed by our German philosopher?

Of course, then we are back to Free Will.

The nails won't keep meyou still; like is relative; the prophets didn't say.

Private to whoever this is.

[terry_schtiwl]

In a sense, I agree with you. Until you get to metaphysicas and away from convoluted linguistic analyses.

Ah, I'm sorry to have muddled that up. I wasn't referring to Schopenhauer when I began to propose the Free Will argument. I was merely quoting him.

Quite right. That's the argument, really. Free Will or causal determination? Or, well, Fatalism. Or a bit of all.

Private

[deirdre_ivy]

This is Deirdre Burke, by the way. We've had the occasional philosophical discussion before.

Private to Deirdre Burke

[terry_schtiwl]

Ah, yes. Well, hello, Deirdre.