you know, this idea struck me. I wonder, if Orlando had the exact same personality in public and did the exact same things he's done, said the exact same things, but looked like... oh I don't know, a hunchback with one working eye, would people still give a damn about him? *scratches head* just wondering ;)
I would have to go with NO on that one. I'm sure there are plenty of equally nice and funny and totally adorable people in Hollywood (well every where)who have no admiring public just because they lack the looks. And if Orlando didn't have the looks, no one would have noticed him. But you just don't fantasize for your perfect man to be a hunchback do you? It's a dream after all...
I'm not even sure how many of his current fans would stick around and still dream of marrying him if he gained 50 pounds? Despite his personality staying the same (I've seen some people turning from him when he gain a few pounds on his stomach during holidays - sad and shallow, Yes, but the fantasy has to be perfect!)
i'll choose option one of the pool, but only because i want him all to myself ;P
seriously - i don't know and i don't think any of us does. although he definitely has more money than most of us he is still a person like all of us, with good days and bad days, good times and bad times. i can only say to me he SEEMS happier in the last bunch of pictures, probably because he really had some time off and is finally done with shooting pirates. that is how it appears to me, but how it really is *shrugs* i don't know. we only see a very small part of his life through pictures and articles that might not even be true. there is a weird kind of connection with orlando, as if i've known him for very long, but when thinking about it, i see that it is the orlando from fanfictions i kinda know, not the real person.
but he gets a hug none the less just because i think he's a nice guy ^^
i'll choose option one of the pool, but only because i want him all to myself ;P
Lol. Greedy huh!
Yeah, you're right; none of us know - but it's still fun to speculate! He also seems happier to me in recent times :)
And yes I see what you mean about knowing the fan-fiction guy better... And, that may contribute towards why some people see him as a bit weak, sad and in need of protection in RL - it;s easy to project some of the fiction character onto his RL persona. And really, I don't think his RL personality fits most of the fanfics I read (where he needs protecting, is a bit young and naive, unsure of himself etc etc. Obviously not all stories are like that.).
Time to do one of my favorite things: an analysis! Only just a short one because don't have much time at the moment.
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Orlando does need a hug, of course, no need for a reason. Hugs are always good.
I don't think he is totally unhappy, since of course life is good when you are a moviestar.
I think that he isn't toally happy either, because it is lonely when you are on top. I mean to have real friends who are more concerned about your well-being for just the sake of it, instead of having some superioir motive to do so
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Nice analysis Smirre :) I agree with pretty much all of it except for this:
I hope, that he would have a longterm boyfriend somewhere (somewhere, meaning Egypt, and me!) because it would mean a lot to have someone to talk to :)
I sort of think he should have a longterm girlfriend somewhere (somewhere meaning a Dane in Sri Lanka, and me!).
Glad you enjoyed the discussion - took me ages to write down the post. lol. But I have been curious to hear people's thoughts on the subject for a while now so it had to be done!
Good question -- here's my take and I apologize in advance for my bluntness, let's just blame it on PMS shall we *grins*
I have no idea what his life's like or if he has anymore issues then any of us. I'm sure Hollywood isn't all glamour and money doesn't buy everything, so there are more than likely a few mundane problems lurking in his closet. Something not dignified or interesting and certainly wouldn't make for good fiction (unless you've recently read helena_s_renn VigBean piece, which makes the mundane amazing).
Personally I think he looks like I did when I was single and 23 having the time of my life, not enough sleep and the drama of who's dating who and what so and so said about you know who and did I get caught snogging my girlfriends boyfriend in the alley... The difference is I was 23 and he's 30 now. Maybe it's just time for him to grow up -- not my call. Maybe he's remarkably mature, I couldn't begin to pretend to know. I'm just glad that there are photos out there that inspire me to write fiction because it would be
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I forgot to add that I doubt I'd give him a hug, I need to know someone to do that. And I certainly don't want him for myself. If you had a choice of sitting back and anonmously watching him with a male lover -- I'm in *giggles*.
Actually, I wouldn't mind sitting in on this as well if there is a spare seat. Perhaps I should have chosen a poll answer as "I don't want to hug him i want to watch him hug hot men".
Ooh I knew you would end up doing this post. Personally I think my opinion on this changes depending on my own mood. For example, I think his current career situation could be a bit daunting and I imagine he would feel a bit lost because that's how I would probably be feeling
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Ooh I knew you would end up doing this post. Personally I think my opinion on this changes depending on my own mood. Hehe, yes I couldn't help myself after our discussion - and I have been wondering about these things for a while. I'm completely like you - my position changes as the wind blows (as you've probably realized by now!). One day I know for sure he's at home with his boyfriend in London and the next day he is busy with Penelope. No need to take a firm stance when it's more fun to participate in all the possibilities :) And I would never look at you as if you were weird; we're sane people for sure
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I saw JenLynn posted some caps on faces_fit last night ;-) and how can people read anything from that antarctic pic? It's just a regular old snapshot. I don't think you can analyse a photo like that!
I don't think you can analyse a photo like that! I Knoooow. That's what's so strange about it. It is clearly an internal urge for some people that he must be suffering so they see it everywhere.
Glad you found the Screen caps (That's not where I got it because I don't know that place but I still can't remember where I did steal it).
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I'm not even sure how many of his current fans would stick around and still dream of marrying him if he gained 50 pounds? Despite his personality staying the same (I've seen some people turning from him when he gain a few pounds on his stomach during holidays - sad and shallow, Yes, but the fantasy has to be perfect!)
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seriously - i don't know and i don't think any of us does. although he definitely has more money than most of us he is still a person like all of us, with good days and bad days, good times and bad times. i can only say to me he SEEMS happier in the last bunch of pictures, probably because he really had some time off and is finally done with shooting pirates. that is how it appears to me, but how it really is *shrugs* i don't know. we only see a very small part of his life through pictures and articles that might not even be true. there is a weird kind of connection with orlando, as if i've known him for very long, but when thinking about it, i see that it is the orlando from fanfictions i kinda know, not the real person.
but he gets a hug none the less just because i think he's a nice guy ^^
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Lol. Greedy huh!
Yeah, you're right; none of us know - but it's still fun to speculate!
He also seems happier to me in recent times :)
And yes I see what you mean about knowing the fan-fiction guy better... And, that may contribute towards why some people see him as a bit weak, sad and in need of protection in RL - it;s easy to project some of the fiction character onto his RL persona. And really, I don't think his RL personality fits most of the fanfics I read (where he needs protecting, is a bit young and naive, unsure of himself etc etc. Obviously not all stories are like that.).
Hmm food for thought :)
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I think that:
Orlando does need a hug, of course, no need for a reason. Hugs are always good.
I don't think he is totally unhappy, since of course life is good when you are a moviestar.
I think that he isn't toally happy either, because it is lonely when you are on top. I mean to have real friends who are more concerned about your well-being for just the sake of it, instead of having some superioir motive to do so ( ... )
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I hope, that he would have a longterm boyfriend somewhere (somewhere, meaning Egypt, and me!) because it would mean a lot to have someone to talk to :)
I sort of think he should have a longterm girlfriend somewhere (somewhere meaning a Dane in Sri Lanka, and me!).
Glad you enjoyed the discussion - took me ages to write down the post. lol. But I have been curious to hear people's thoughts on the subject for a while now so it had to be done!
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I have no idea what his life's like or if he has anymore issues then any of us. I'm sure Hollywood isn't all glamour and money doesn't buy everything, so there are more than likely a few mundane problems lurking in his closet. Something not dignified or interesting and certainly wouldn't make for good fiction (unless you've recently read helena_s_renn VigBean piece, which makes the mundane amazing).
Personally I think he looks like I did when I was single and 23 having the time of my life, not enough sleep and the drama of who's dating who and what so and so said about you know who and did I get caught snogging my girlfriends boyfriend in the alley... The difference is I was 23 and he's 30 now. Maybe it's just time for him to grow up -- not my call. Maybe he's remarkably mature, I couldn't begin to pretend to know. I'm just glad that there are photos out there that inspire me to write fiction because it would be ( ... )
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'blush blush blush!'
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and how can people read anything from that antarctic pic? It's just a regular old snapshot. I don't think you can analyse a photo like that!
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I Knoooow. That's what's so strange about it. It is clearly an internal urge for some people that he must be suffering so they see it everywhere.
Glad you found the Screen caps (That's not where I got it because I don't know that place but I still can't remember where I did steal it).
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