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[bobbola]

I would really like to know how many people are disgruntled with this community. because then it would give the leaders a number to show how much they fucked up.

as for the_golem, i think he should stay. i may not like him, but im confused in that most of the people here like him, so why is he leaving?

as for sensuousx since when is she adept in shit talking? she

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[holeinmysock]

honestly, I don't think anyone ever write a real reason why they don't like other people in the community. They do a good job of being completely bastardly to other people, but that is only based on the application. Most of the time we all just sit here and say, "I never thought you were elite", but never really back up what we are saying with substance. If it is substace is is usually just bitching about the way people vote and nothing else.

I also think people try to hold intelligence over people's heads, but in reality they are not intelligent at all. Just because you have a massive vocabulary and have seen many obscure film or pieces of artwork and read books no one can even pronounce does not make you intelligent and if you think it does than you are as sad sorry individual.

Overall I agree with what you said. As for the whole the_golem thing, I feel bad for saying he should have been voted out. I went a read some of his journal and he seems like a really interesting, intelligent guy. I take full responsibility for my lack of research.

[flood]

Even with the concession that thegolem is intelligent and interesting, the fact remains that it is a gimmick. I like the guy, I even have him on my friends list. But I don't feel it's fair to have him here when he doesn't represent eliteness - he represents a roleplaying character gone a touch too far. At least in my opinion.

[sugarcoatedsour]

do you feel that an individual's use of language is a reliable indicator of their intelligence, or do you think verbosity is a shallow means of self-importance?

i am intrigued by this statement: Just because you have a massive vocabulary and have seen many obscure film or pieces of artwork and read books no one can even pronounce does not make you intelligent and if you think it does than you are as sad sorry individual.

i find you interesting & i'm curious to see how you, personally, measure a person's intelligence.

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[holeinmysock]

I love conversation. I think that an intelligent person is someone I can sit down with and have a real conversation. not just an everyday conversation, but one in which we exchange ideas and thoughts. I think intelligent people are people who can have an argument and admit when they are wrong. Perhaps even open up to the other person's ideas and form their own opinions.

I just don't understand how people can hold a large vocabulary over someone's head. People use big words just to sound smart and it's a pet peeve of mine. Some of the best conversations I have had, some of the best books I've read for that matter, have been simple in their wording. If you can get your point across in an intelligent manner, I don't think the words you use shouldn't matter.

[sensuousx]

A person's intelligence cannot be distinguished in detail over a computer. Neither can their personality. If you find it unfair that I am able to clarify a strong like or dislike for a subject based on their ability to use language [the only substantial judge (over the internet)], your understanding of what you yourself do is underdeveloped. If you want to pretend your knowledge of a person's interpersonal skills, emotion, and common sense are displayed in text, you're quite a delirious human being. [Did I just call you stupid?] I'm trying to come out on top by proving you wrong twice. 1) Judging your use of diction. 2) Proving I know nothing about you beyond your ability to use language.

That's pretty satisfactory. I'm glad you gave me the chance to enter into this conversation.

[bobbola]

you have said that you dont like my personality, and you are now saying that you cant judge a persons personality through the computer? you have also called me unintelligent. hypocrite. on the other hand, i havent ever called you stupid, or someone with a dull personality.

youre calling me stupid because i dont have a strong vocabulary? probably because i dont need big words to develop my ideas. i think i have stated ideas well, and yet i dont use language to its best ability. i think thats saying something. ive been able to hang/top you in this argument without going out of my way to use big words. big words mean youre arrogant about intelligence.

you started this war about how you dont like me, and now youre saying that a person's character cannot be judged in the matter. great job there captain.

[sensuousx]

I've spoken to you outside the community. I can make judgments about your personality, agreeable or not. I was referring to others in the community who I do not know when I spoke of being unable to discern them.

Please do inform me of the ways in which my vocabulary intimidates you. That is your only defense. I'm treating you like a sixth grader and you still cant grasp the language?

p.s. [you are unintelligent. your ways of proving this far exceed my ways to explain the proof. but I will state simply that your comprehension needs improvement and it isnt your vocabularly (never have I mentioned vocab) that dissuades me. you're a bullshitter with unkept sincerity.]

[bobbola]

the one time you spoke to me outside the community was when i was depressed. that moment was probably the moment where i thought the most highly of you.

your vocabulary doesnt intimidate me because i think im one of the few people that understand you.

im unintelligent? you dont like me so you call me unintelligent. admit it, thats the truth. ive competed with you this entire way. if youre so much smarter, shake me off. prove yourself.

[ledramatic]

Thank you for posting this.

[ziuziuziu]

Well first off, I think it was the members of this community that called for the maintainers to take action. We actually had no maintainers before this and it appears they have disappeared once again. I think it is safe to say that no one finds injustice in the banning of members, except those who have been banned.

I really enjoy the golem. Gimmick or not, I think he belongs here. Unlike you and chessie, who critisizes us for taking this "too seriously" yet can't seem to keep away (even though she apparently left on her own), I don't find it a big deal that someone I liked got banned. Many other members said they did not enjoy the golem. And it was my understanding that it was majority rule in all the bannings. Even the golem didn't complain about getting banned.

sensousx is more intelligent than you and that is why you attack her. It isn't that she is using her vocabulary to intimidate, it is that you have a hard time understanding her because she is above you. I like you , I think you are funny and good at causing drama, but it isn't

[bobbola]

a couple things...

i have never said nor thought you all take this too seriously. also, sensuousx bitched me out first (i dont mean to sound like "she started it" but yeah) are you seeing the words she uses? im not intimidated, but im making fun of her for using that tactic to try to intimidate me.

besides that, you are right. im glad youve caught me in contradictions that sensuousx hasnt. on top of that, you didnt saturate your argument with big words.

good job, you have earned my respect, not that you didnt have it in the first place.

[ziuziuziu]

My sentence structure was confusing, but I meant this whole comment: "who critisizes us for taking this "too seriously" yet can't seem to keep away (even though she apparently left on her own)," only for chessie, the part I had intended for you both was, "I don't find it a big deal that someone I liked got banned"

I am glad you can accept gracefully when caught in a fault. For that, respect is mutual. Jaclyn (sensuousx) really doesn't bust out many words I don't understand, but sometimes does use a rather poetic structure I have to read twice. I think she makes valid points but does so in such a flowery manner that people who more simply "make fun" are frustrated.

[bobbola]

i trying to say that the flowery manner she writes in is unnecessary. the smartest people in the world dont even use the language she does. hell, i could use the language she does. but i dont need to use such a lavish writing style to get the point across. maybe inadvertently, she means the writing style to help intimidate, but i think it muddles the point shes tring to make. when i read her comments, i first think, "why the fuck is she using big words? who is she trying to impress?"

and if she says, "thats how i always write and talk" thats bullshit, because no one casually does that unless they are a stuck up bitch.