Hey I'm with this mysterious person on this one, although perhaps just the first bullet would do. If we assume that this guy is overwhelmingly wealthy, then he has no real reason to have dog fighting on his property. If you then consider the extreme cruelty of dog fighting, we can assume that the reason he allowed it to take place on his property was because he himself is a prick of a human being. Given that any children of this man would not only have to deal with the pressure of being the children of such a famous man (which comes with its own pitfals), but are also more likely to inheret his cruel tendencies, the only way he should be allowed to reproduce is after months of rehab, and even then in incredible pain.
My point, James is that if you think dogs fighting is inhumane (which is a stupid word to be using in this context), then painfully removing any part of a person's body without their consent is probably just as bad.
I'm not saying I don't agree with the cause, I'm saying that some people are just idiots, they don't necessarily belong to any one group, but they do exist.
Well i'd say it's definitey not just as bad, because as a human being not only does he have the capacity to understand what he's doing, but also to empathise with the subjects of his cruelty and understand their pain completely. Like i say, there can't be a whole lot of reasons for why this happened unless he condones dog fighting, and so by commiting an act of deliberate maliciousness he's opened himself up to punishment.
And i think "inhumane" is a perfectly fine word, once you accept that humans aren't cleanly seperate and distinct from other organisms, but instead there are graduations between us and other animals, and our ability to feel and understand pain and fear first developed in our common ancestor. So something can be "inhumane" if we wouldn't bring it upon humans, and so shouldn't bring it on other creatures which feel emotions like humans'. Not that that's necesarily what's happening here, but as a hypothetical i'm happy with inhumanity.
While I don't always agree with tactics used by extremist groups and such, I believe there's something very noble in standing up for the rights of those who are unable to stand up for themselves.
Some people are stupid, but this guy's cause is certainly not the problem.
Eh. Once you step back and think about it, you hear "I hate (x) activists" far more often than you hear actual activists trying to ruin someone's fun (especially with "political correctness"). People like cutting down straw men.
So, yeah, that commenter is your average internet nutjob, probably spends the rest of his time trolling YouTube calling people gay. Still, between the person who talks about a violent eye-for-an-eye punishment on the internet to show his sympathy for victimised animals and the person who ruthlessly forces dogs to kill each other for an afternoon's entertainment, I'm surprised you're more outraged by the first guy.
...and that's why you don't use yahoo sports as your source of nfl news. Michael Vick is a total nutjob however, no matter how this case turns out. I can imagine the most likely scenario in reality is that he's painfully ignorant to the whole thing and it has all come from his inability to control where his millions upon millions of dollars are going. For those unfamiliar with the case, all the dogfighting related paraphernalia was discovered in a drug raid on a house owned by Vick, but was inhabited by a cousin of his and supposedly barely visited by Vick. He is, however, also a registered dog breeder. I wouldn't be surprised if he's guilty, but i also wouldn't be surprised if he's just an idiot with connections to the wrong people and an irresponsible handle on his money. At any rate he's probably ruined the Atlanta Falcons for the year! Cunt. Eh, we're probably better off without him. He's not a good quarterback. Not good.
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I'm not saying I don't agree with the cause, I'm saying that some people are just idiots, they don't necessarily belong to any one group, but they do exist.
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And i think "inhumane" is a perfectly fine word, once you accept that humans aren't cleanly seperate and distinct from other organisms, but instead there are graduations between us and other animals, and our ability to feel and understand pain and fear first developed in our common ancestor. So something can be "inhumane" if we wouldn't bring it upon humans, and so shouldn't bring it on other creatures which feel emotions like humans'. Not that that's necesarily what's happening here, but as a hypothetical i'm happy with inhumanity.
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Some people are stupid, but this guy's cause is certainly not the problem.
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So, yeah, that commenter is your average internet nutjob, probably spends the rest of his time trolling YouTube calling people gay. Still, between the person who talks about a violent eye-for-an-eye punishment on the internet to show his sympathy for victimised animals and the person who ruthlessly forces dogs to kill each other for an afternoon's entertainment, I'm surprised you're more outraged by the first guy.
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