What's Happening, America?

[thebiblicalway]

Times are changing here in the U.S.A. The foundations are being destroyed chip by chip. If one didn’t know better he’d think there were a conspiracy behind it all. ... Oh, right, there is-a satanic one, at least.

Hate crimes legislation is being passed via an amendment to the Children’s Safety Act (H.R.3132). The amendment, though not directly

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[thebiblicalway]

No, not at all too many question. =) More the merrier! I appreciate them (just don't expect any greatly insightful answers).

A few quick answers (lunch break version =):

America was certainly started as a Christian nation in the sense that God's law was considered supreme and binding. Additionally, the majority of the early American leaders/founders were professed Christians.

But things have changed since then--gradually but substantially over the 230 years. God's law is no longer honored and respected. So, today I don't consider America a Christian nation. Many Christians live here, but the Christian foundation has been largely eroded.

As for the downfall of America's superpower status, I believe that any nation that forgets God tends toward ruin and eventually gets judged for infidelity. Yet, God is more gracious and longsuffering than we can imagine, and for the sake of His elect judgment may be largely withheld for a time--only for a time, not forever.

Sorry for the brief answers; time is so fleeting.

[therealhopeful]

I used to worry about these things, but then I realized that despite what calamity may befall us the LORD is still in control. Christ even told us that such things would happen. Consider Mark 13:7-13 (vs 11 omitted)

But when you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be troubled; for such things must happen, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines and troubles. These are the beginnings of sorrows.
“But watch out for yourselves, for they will deliver you up to councils, and you will be beaten in the synagogues. You will be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony to them. And the gospel must first be preached to all the nations. ... Now brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end shall be saved.

[mchapin]

I agree, Jim. While I certainly see the future of America going downhill, I have come to the conclusion that sitting here worrying about what may happen soon isn't helpful to me. Growing up, my dad was always stressing that the end was near. In fact, I don't really think I thought I would reach my 20's. Well, here I am now. The state of the world isn't rosy but it never has been. God is in control, and He will give us the strength we need while going through trials. Worrying about the future only causes me to cast my eyes on circumstances- that may or may not even exist yet.

Just my 0.02 for what it's worth. :)

[therealhopeful]

That is so true, Melody. Christ tells us in Matthew, "But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble." I praise God for His overflowing kindness and blessings, which He has given to you!

[thebiblicalway]

Thanks for these thoughts, both of you! You're encouraging. I'm grateful to have you both on my friends list.

[arcticfidelity]

I see persecution based on the current course of events and the level of spiritual firmness exuded by the majority of so-called christians. However, I do believe there is a great opening for hope here, but it requires change, and radical ones at that.

[thebiblicalway]

...so-called christians.

Exactly. A large portion of professed Christians are still spiritually dead and produce no fruit. What a different land we'd live in if all the professed Christians were true Christians! There's this dangerous easy-believism teaching these days that deceives many into thinking they're saved because of some prayer they prayed or some aisle they walked, when in truth their hearts have never been regenerated. Sad--very sad.

However, I do believe there is a great opening for hope here, but it requires change, and radical ones at that.

Yes, there is always hope. The immediate future is quite uncertain.

[arcticfidelity]

I might also add that I find the general timidity of most Christians in general to be rather disconcerting. I find a very strong level of pacifism in Christianity which extends far beyond what I think the original, apparently pacifistic, teachings of Jesus were actually meant to address. Being such, I find that the majority of even partially grounded christians are unable, unwilling, or just too scared to do those things necessary to turn this country around. Many people feel that if they actually did those things which were necessary, that it would in some way, jeopardize their christian walk; they would rather claim to be walking in faith and "let God change America, we have faith."