lol. Thanks Jon. I won't! Damn them... though I now secretly want to work for them and make dinosaur videos... :) or the Sci Fi channel. God damn that would be so fucking great!
I dont know I dont know!! I might go up to Bellingham tomorrow though to have a peruse. Thursday I may also try to force becah to hang out with me, but this may come to nothing. So really I'm pretty free. Do you want to do something? When? WHERE? AHHH!
Okay, I've obviously failed to make my point, so let me try again.
which, btw, wasn't what they were advertising. As I was trying to point out, it appears to be a new 'hd' version of the film; not a blue-ray version, despite all this
I did not see the commercial you are talking about. However, the only upcoming Sleeping Beauty release is the 50th Anniversary Platinum Edition, so I assume that's what you're tlaking about. It is a 2-disk set (1 film, 1 bonus features) which is being released on (regular) DVD and Blu-ray Disk. It is not being released on HD-DVD, which is a seperate format from Blu-ray, much the same way that VHS and Betamax were different, incompatible formats using similar base technology.
Upon further research, I have determined that the Platinum Edition was produced by re-scanning the original negatives. Digital "restoration" work was done to remove dust and scratches and touch up the artwork where it was unsuited to high-resolution viewing. The mono-audio track was built into a 5.1 presentation using a combination
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Having not seen the comparison you're talking about, I don't know. I know the digital cleanup of Star Wars was a significant improvement even at SD levels. It's a shame the cleaned up video was only available with Lucas' additional CGI nonsense, because the remaster itself was gorgeous.
you are being rude
I am, yes. Or was. I'm trying to be more polite now. I got caught up in your defensiveness, and I responded emotionally to your emotion.
how is something really complex going to come across
Depends on how much work you put into the cleanup. It's entirely possible to do a completely shit job on the remaster, and then you've got a high res piece of crap. But the idea of a remaster itself does not bother me, considering the intricate detail present in the original artwork.
if you think the image is so stunning on this web linkActually, I think the image present on the web link is grainy, scratchy, and appears to include faded colors. I was simply calling attention to the completely
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I was told about it in a lecture given to use by Paul Wheeler, a highly respected cameraman in England. I don't have any literature on it, but if I see something I'll pass it forward.
I think it was pretty clear that I was/am in a bad mood regarding this post. I'm sorry that it's gotten so heated, but when I'm constantly being corrected and being made to feel endlessly stupid after having a clearly crappy night, of course I'm going to react angrily to the posts that follow. I'm surprised, truly, that you didn't just leave this one alone.
Don't you think it would have been worth them telling you what form of HD they ment?
Having not seen the ad, I'm willing to bet you that they did. I bet they said it was a "new HD version" or something to that effect, and closed the commercial with "available soon on DVD and Blu-ray."
If the ad was produced before February 2008, it might have said "available on DVD, HD-DVD and Blu-ray," or maybe even not the Blu-ray. But Toshiba gave up on HD-DVD last month, and Blu-ray is the winner. No more HD-DVD releases coming down the pipe from major distributors. So, it's possible that your ad contains a lie, because plans were forced to change after releasing early ads. The product isn't for sale until October, so they've got plenty of time to correct that error.
After all, if it's an HD-DVD, and the ONLY way you can get what you want out of it is to own a Blue Ray disc player, or an HD DVD tv, don't you think that's worth including in the advertisement?As I said, it's also being released in a standard DVD version. People with regular DVD
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Reply Part 1:thebluewillowMarch 25 2008, 20:45:52 UTC
So basically the entire point of you replying to my post was to tell me I'm not allowed to get upset... ever. I'm not allowed to feel offended, and really, I'm not allowed an opinion. I'm shouldn't swear, as it's unbecoming and unnecessary, and whatever I claim the ad said, most likely they didn't and I'm more than likely wrong
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Reply Park 2:thebluewillowMarch 25 2008, 20:46:23 UTC
No, they were not advertising a normal DVD version of Sleeping Beauty. I believe that has already been released. (See the disney website for more details). It was an HD version, and I really believe the words HD DVD were used, and not really sure it was Blue Ray at the end of the day. But with all of this knowledge behind me, and with an understanding of HD equipment (though perhaps not as clear of an understanding of HD dvd style players), I can see a flaw, and listening carefully, can hear missing information vital to the purchase. There are underlying sparkle sound effects, an air of romance towards the Sleeping Beauty film, and the sell sell sell repetition of words and friendly male voice soothing the viewers into purchase. But what there wasn't was an explanation. And this offended me, and I will choose to call it a lie, as I believe there were many embedded in the message. Not only because I realize where this ad is coming from, but because I have knowledge of filmming, and I understand the construction of this ad. I see a
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Of course you're allowed to say what you want. Similarly, I'm allowed to point out that you are wrong when you say wrong things. If you don't want to hear it, that's fine. But I am not attacking you as a person, nor am I trying to censor you.
I was well aware that your post was largely the product of your dislike for "American consumerism." Obviously, that's a point that you and I have disagreed on in the past. However, I chose not to argue with you about whether consumerism is "good" or not. Instead, I am addressing the substance of your post, in which you attack a specific ad for making specific claims. You imply that those claims are lies, and that the product they are selling is not as described. Based on my reading of your post, you have a flawed understanding of the product, and I'm simply pointing out that the product as it is described in every other place that I have seen it mentioned, is accurately depicted. It is entirely possible that the ad you saw did include false claims, but you have not demonstrated that to me in any
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Damn them... though I now secretly want to work for them and make dinosaur videos... :) or the Sci Fi channel. God damn that would be so fucking great!
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I might go up to Bellingham tomorrow though to have a peruse. Thursday I may also try to force becah to hang out with me, but this may come to nothing. So really I'm pretty free. Do you want to do something? When? WHERE? AHHH!
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which, btw, wasn't what they were advertising. As I was trying to point out, it appears to be a new 'hd' version of the film; not a blue-ray version, despite all this
I did not see the commercial you are talking about. However, the only upcoming Sleeping Beauty release is the 50th Anniversary Platinum Edition, so I assume that's what you're tlaking about. It is a 2-disk set (1 film, 1 bonus features) which is being released on (regular) DVD and Blu-ray Disk. It is not being released on HD-DVD, which is a seperate format from Blu-ray, much the same way that VHS and Betamax were different, incompatible formats using similar base technology.
Upon further research, I have determined that the Platinum Edition was produced by re-scanning the original negatives. Digital "restoration" work was done to remove dust and scratches and touch up the artwork where it was unsuited to high-resolution viewing. The mono-audio track was built into a 5.1 presentation using a combination ( ... )
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Having not seen the comparison you're talking about, I don't know. I know the digital cleanup of Star Wars was a significant improvement even at SD levels. It's a shame the cleaned up video was only available with Lucas' additional CGI nonsense, because the remaster itself was gorgeous.
you are being rude
I am, yes. Or was. I'm trying to be more polite now. I got caught up in your defensiveness, and I responded emotionally to your emotion.
how is something really complex going to come across
Depends on how much work you put into the cleanup. It's entirely possible to do a completely shit job on the remaster, and then you've got a high res piece of crap. But the idea of a remaster itself does not bother me, considering the intricate detail present in the original artwork.
if you think the image is so stunning on this web linkActually, I think the image present on the web link is grainy, scratchy, and appears to include faded colors. I was simply calling attention to the completely ( ... )
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I think it was pretty clear that I was/am in a bad mood regarding this post. I'm sorry that it's gotten so heated, but when I'm constantly being corrected and being made to feel endlessly stupid after having a clearly crappy night, of course I'm going to react angrily to the posts that follow. I'm surprised, truly, that you didn't just leave this one alone.
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Having not seen the ad, I'm willing to bet you that they did. I bet they said it was a "new HD version" or something to that effect, and closed the commercial with "available soon on DVD and Blu-ray."
If the ad was produced before February 2008, it might have said "available on DVD, HD-DVD and Blu-ray," or maybe even not the Blu-ray. But Toshiba gave up on HD-DVD last month, and Blu-ray is the winner. No more HD-DVD releases coming down the pipe from major distributors. So, it's possible that your ad contains a lie, because plans were forced to change after releasing early ads. The product isn't for sale until October, so they've got plenty of time to correct that error.
After all, if it's an HD-DVD, and the ONLY way you can get what you want out of it is to own a Blue Ray disc player, or an HD DVD tv, don't you think that's worth including in the advertisement?As I said, it's also being released in a standard DVD version. People with regular DVD ( ... )
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I was well aware that your post was largely the product of your dislike for "American consumerism." Obviously, that's a point that you and I have disagreed on in the past. However, I chose not to argue with you about whether consumerism is "good" or not. Instead, I am addressing the substance of your post, in which you attack a specific ad for making specific claims. You imply that those claims are lies, and that the product they are selling is not as described. Based on my reading of your post, you have a flawed understanding of the product, and I'm simply pointing out that the product as it is described in every other place that I have seen it mentioned, is accurately depicted. It is entirely possible that the ad you saw did include false claims, but you have not demonstrated that to me in any ( ... )
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