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Dec 13, 2004 21:18

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thebrianshow December 14 2004, 20:02:19 UTC
i think our problem here is semantics.

having a skewed interpretation of what simplification is would only lead to the subject not being capable of simplification, as when they simplified it, it wouldnt be simplification, so therefore they cannot simplify. So your either or is really the same thing.

and your bottom paragraph is just a definition of simplification.

so i think we're really saying the same thing if i understood you correctly.

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thebrianshow December 14 2004, 20:15:15 UTC
well done

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anonymous December 14 2004, 22:08:51 UTC
Then again if you over simplify, all hell can break loose. Read 1984 if you haven't already, you'll see what I mean. If you over simplify everything, including language, you lose the essence of what you are saying. For instance, "I love it more than life itself." Nice.. now simplified: "I like it." Sort of loses the meaning if you get what I mean. How much do you like it? You can't really tell from the simplified form. Or maybe it's just me I don't know.

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thebrianshow December 14 2004, 22:54:25 UTC
Thats why you dont oversimplify, cause oversimplifying is not simplifying.
and thus you oversimplified:

I love it more than life itself
"it > life" is what the simplification would be

heres the proof:
i love it more than life itself
i love life
i love it greater
it is greater than life

theres your simplification. Same meaning, but simpler

and if this statement were true, then everyone would be likely to make the same decision if one had to choose one or the other.

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anonymous December 15 2004, 03:28:43 UTC
Simplifying language too often removes the subtleties that make it meaningful. You can say something looks nice, looks pretty, looks amazing, looks stunning... They all convey the same basic meaning, but there's something deeper inside each word.

Simplifying people and situations tends to be alot easier though. Which is why you can't take a random hobo and ask him to simplify Dickens, but you can tell him some scenario of human events and he'll wind up with some simplification. Unless of course he'd rather take a piss on you. In which case I laugh.

Simplification is good. And underused where it should be used and vice versa. get rid of the newspeak and get rid of the 10,000 times you say "like" in a day. Ta-da.

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k_dawg_stein December 17 2004, 01:54:34 UTC
brian,

go, you go.

kevin

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thebrianshow December 17 2004, 02:31:22 UTC
going

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hmmm anonymous December 18 2004, 04:50:04 UTC
i really wish i was deep, i would totally comment something intelligent on this subject... keep making out in saturns, my brother!

-walshy, 2000 Saturn

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I'VE GOT IT anonymous January 1 2005, 00:14:29 UTC
Finally.. I thought of a perfect example. Cranberry apple. Delicious. Now simplify it. Cranapple. Not bad. Again. Crappple. Uh oh, we have a disgusting problem on our hands here. Hey for shits and giggles let's simplify once more. And what do you get when you oversimplify? CRAP. That's right kids.. simplifying can only lead to crap.

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