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[thehangedman]

I got into this whole argument with Nic tonight, but...

I don't believe that you can call yourself an artist, a writer, a musician, whatever, until you are making a living doing it. What you're doing may (or may not) be art. What you're doing may (or may not) be good. But until you're doing it for a living, you are not an artist. You may want to be

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[thehangedman]

Anyone can call any piece of crap art, but that doesn't make it art. The ashtray you made in art class isn't art, it's a paperweight. If people don't recognize something as art, it isn't. There has to be a recognition. That's practically integral to your own point that some artists didn't make a living off of their art. There were still people who recognized what they did as art.

Yes, it's true that some artists weren't able to live off of their art. They, however, at least received recognition for their work eventually. And those artists did not do nothing because it was, "too personal to share with the world." And I'm sure if they walked around calling themselves artists, they probably seemed every bit as douchey as our, "writers", "actors", and "artists". You are still your profession. You aren't something just because you say so. Those people may have been recognized as artists eventually, but that was not what they were able to call themselves at the time.

[thehangedman]

And many art scholars and students would disagree with you

[caffeina]

epic fail