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Dec 29, 2003 12:10

I understand that many of you are maturing and that the process of that is confusing and often depressing. You have many views on the world and how it should be and how you think people should act. For the most part you have good ideas and mean well with your thoughts but one thing you cannot impose on is the natural right of free will ( Read more... )

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diamondave December 29 2003, 19:55:56 UTC
i agree with you man. i don't have a problem with other people doing it, it's just not for me. i may sound like an asshole with my views, but i'm not intending to be one. it's just my perception.

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thelotuseffect December 29 2003, 22:34:54 UTC
You're not an asshole. Duh :P

I think it was foolish of you to apologize to people for smoking a plant (and then making it so people couldnt respond). My post was not DIRECTED at YOU but intended...yea I suppose it was. The other people it was intended to I'm sure wont post but thats ok; they can revel in their own doubts. I just urge you to live for yourself and that you shouldnt look for approval of others for your actions. Do what you will.

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diamondave December 29 2003, 22:40:52 UTC
you are a wise wise man, jeff.

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skapunk2005 December 29 2003, 23:39:53 UTC
I don't think this post was intended for me but I'm going to post anyway. I know that in the past I've been a complete asshole over this issue and I realize that was wrong and hypocritical of me. Seeing as how I hate when some religious people force their ideas on me who am I to force my ideas about smoking on some people? I'd have to agree with Dave and say its just not my thing and for those of you who choose to do it, go right on ahead. And thanks for not getting mad at me Jeffy-kins ;)

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stillnight December 30 2003, 00:38:02 UTC
You mother-fucker!

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skapunk2005 December 30 2003, 04:27:40 UTC
I love you too sweet cheeks *bats eyes*

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thelotuseffect December 30 2003, 04:00:29 UTC
Awesome :) Just keep your mind open. All stoners arent dumbasses. Just the ones who dont know how to control themselves. When people call you hippy-like they call you that expressing good qualities of hippy's (i.e.: native american mentality; not the "woah man i'm so hiigh right now" bullcrap)...they just dont know enough to say it politely :P

I suppose the post was intended to you after-all considering it inspired you to make a post.

Peace.

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dickmagnet December 30 2003, 20:02:51 UTC
Like I said, there is a difference between obsession and addiction.

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caughtbythefuzz December 31 2003, 20:31:55 UTC
I agree with this all to some degree. You see pot affects most everyone. You smoke it and it affects you and thus you smoke it again. Pot has some good effects and it has some negative effects. I have at various points over the past five years smoked various amounts of pot. I've known most every type of smoker there is, and they are all affected. I lectured you on this at least once because it was my perception that you were being affected negatively. You barely went to school and couldn't remember shit when it came to playing in a band. And I think that the idea of natural free will is somewhat valid, but I think it's wrong to ask your friends not to say something when they feel you are being harmed.
I never cared if you smoked hence me hooking you up a couple times. But I did care when you seemed fucked up as a result of it. The issue was you and your well being.
I'm sure that needs clarification. can't wait to see you on the first.
xoxopat

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thelotuseffect December 31 2003, 21:11:44 UTC
What was affecting me negatively was depression and negative thought patterns. I used to be so incredibly depressed that I was pretty much suicidal. Waking up was a task and everyday felt long and drawn out...I couldnt see passed myself. I'm still the same person externally (with many improvements and still improving, of course) but internally I've changed much. I'm happy to be alive and I look forward to the future. I know my life is not perfect but I'm happy with how I am and I accept the person I am becoming.

The problem was there...yes, but pot was not the source. I'm sure it acted as a catalyst as most escapist behavior does...but I'm 100% confident in my actions and my beliefs.

I'll see you on the 1st :P

Peace.

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maimedirony January 12 2004, 13:43:11 UTC
It makes me mad when someone tells me I use it as a means of escape. how truely fucking stupid do some people think we are? And this kinda stuff usually coming from someone who's never smoked pot before.

I have alot of thoughts on drugs and pot. And I dont beleive pot to be the gateway drug as many people say it is. I think if you are willing enough to try pot, then sooner or later you will be willing enough to try something else. Its not that pot pulls you in and says "Smoke me mother fucker, now go buy some crack", its just that if your curiousity gets to you enough to try pot, then you most likely will try something else.

Meh.

Nice conversation we had the other day. I like talking about that shit. Maybe we can do it again soon. And smoke mabybe, if we are talking face to face.

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Bob anonymous February 18 2004, 05:43:02 UTC
Sup Jeff? I agree with you totally on this post...
I smoke about twice a week, and have been for about five years.
Ive taught myslef to moderate my habits and I can stay happy sober.
well uhh i gotta go smoke this joint..ill talk to you in school

Bob

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