Gay Marriage - Where's the fury?

Mar 29, 2004 12:23

Disclaimer: I am either acquainted with, or friends with, several Christians. I am perfectly aware that both sides of the fence have irrational fanatics. If you feel offended by anything I say, please don't hesitate to bring it to me and we can talk about it ( Read more... )

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Personal beliefs brian_peterson March 29 2004, 12:18:45 UTC
What I have seen is a morality issue of a majority pushing to make it law to be forced on the minority. I personally don't care which way your door swings and mine would be my personal business. I take the same approach in all issues ( ... )

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Re: Legal vs. Spiritual themorrigan March 29 2004, 13:03:39 UTC
Thanks for the disclaimer, BTW, and you know how much I usually avoid opening myself up, so this should be an indicator of my trust.

You are most welcome. I am honored, and I thank you.

And just as a note, the first person who opens fire on you, or any other Christian who is offering their opinion or views without malice intended and with honesty, is no longer welcome on my journal. I don't understand bigotry, of any flavor, and I don't appreciate it in any form.

The Bible actually teaches discretion in bringing spirituality into the legal arena.

As you, and others know, I was reared in the Christian faith. I studied Christianity from many angles, including in depth historical research at several camps. And this point was something that I was exposed to at an early age. That is a good part of the reason why I don't understand the relatively recent (and by recent, I'm extending my timeframe beyond my own lifetime) drive to legislate religious beliefs.

I choose not to be homosexual for various reasons. Others choose to be so, ( ... )

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sacrosanct24 March 29 2004, 12:41:59 UTC
There is no "logical" argument. The closest you will find is the Slippery Slope (http://www.reason.com/links/links030204.shtml... )

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netgecko March 29 2004, 12:54:32 UTC
(editors note: I am one of the 1/5 of 1% that actually got into a good marriage, in my opinion.)

Woo! I love being in good company. :)

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From my own philosophy foxykitsune March 29 2004, 14:59:28 UTC
I'm Catholic and I think what really makes me opposed to law coming in about marriage is because marriage is really a sacrament. By my own beliefs I am not married. I never went before a Catholic priest and promised to love, honor, and obey my husband. It's something we are planning on doing in the future but for now technically I'm not married. What the US government is doing is basically taking what for centuries has been a sacrament and turning it into a law. Where is separation of church and state in that? Personally I'd not mind if they came up with some other word for a legally binding contract between a man and woman, man and man, woman and woman, whatever. Define it legally as something else than what names a sacrament. Also remove the whole swearing on a bible in court and under god in the pledge. If we really want a separation between church and state then do it, don't make it only in certain pretenses and not in others. I have no problem with gay couples, I have no problem with strait couples. Everyone is allowed their own ( ... )

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Re: From my own philosophy themorrigan March 29 2004, 15:39:26 UTC
Which makes perfect sense. The problem that the community is currently having is that the proposed same sex unions will be granted less rights than marriages - even those performed by a justice of the peace. It's discriminatory and wrong.

But I do agree with you.

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Re: From my own philosophy dreamking00 March 30 2004, 10:09:09 UTC
"Also remove the whole swearing on a bible in court and under god in the pledge ( ... )

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Re: From my own philosophy foxykitsune March 30 2004, 12:01:16 UTC
"To a degree, (and this is one thing that tells me it's *totally* irrational) this debate is about a word."

I'd have to disagree with this. It's more a debate over a concept (which makes it all the worse). Marriage, in one form or another, has been around for many more years than the US government, yet somehow it's become now a legal thing, which I really feel it should not be. Tax me the same as everyone else, whether or not I choose to be in a "civil union" with my significant other or not. Offer health insurance to both in a relationship (hell even do away with the HMOs and offer health care for all the people). Where law is make it an even playing field.

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