Oh good, more stupid political shit.

Feb 27, 2008 00:47

Many of my friends know that I was brought up in a very liberal church denomination called the United Church of Christ. My dad's a (now retired) minister of the UCC, my mom is also an ordained minister of Christian education. Though I no longer believe in what I would call the spiritual or faith aspect, I have a tremendous appreciation for the ( Read more... )

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eyelid February 27 2008, 16:26:17 UTC
WTF? Don't candidates talk to church gatherings all the time? And don't a lot of right-wing pastors exhort their members to vote for XYZ candidate from the pulpit?

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theseamster February 27 2008, 18:46:36 UTC
Ah, but he wasn't just speaking at an individual church, this was the denomination's General Synod which is held every two years. There were thousands of people there, which makes all the difference, right? See? Really, it does.

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midwest_siren February 27 2008, 18:15:27 UTC
I think it's just as likely to have come from the Clinton campaign as Rove. That's just politics for you. My thought is this: any chance to besmirch his reputation can and will be taken at this time. It has NOTHING to do with the UCC. It would not have mattered if all the church members became saints before they invited Obama to come speak. _Someone_ would have questioned the actions to hurt Obama's chances in some way.

To sum up:
Politics are dumb.

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theseamster February 27 2008, 18:48:28 UTC
Yeah, you could certainly be right; I don't really know where it came from. No matter what the source, I am confident it has far more to do with political maneuvering than genuine concern for the law.

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*eh* typical patchhat February 27 2008, 19:34:39 UTC
i doubt the "intermediate option" ever existed. i couldn't begin to guess where the attack originated (so... many... possibilities) but recent experience with the legal system has taught me that, all politics aside, the machine of the legal system exists to support and perpetuate itself.

the instigation of the attack on ucc (and obama) was probably political, but once it was presented to the legal system, it wasn't about right or wrong anymore, it was about money and control... "legality" was just the excuse... and the only ones that'll win in this will be the lawyers.

it's not really disturbing to me... it's just very, very sad that #1, there are people that feel it's necessary to instigate this idiocy, and #2, that the courts entertain the blatant waste of time. a little preventative communication would pro'lly save billions in wasted court sensationalism, but saving billions isn't really american now, is it? don't people crave that sensation?

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kizdeana April 12 2008, 23:45:43 UTC
It's Morgan.
I'm adding you.

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theseamster April 13 2008, 10:16:23 UTC
Hm, you said you added me and yet you haven't actually done so, you big liar. But I have now added you.

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kizdeana April 13 2008, 14:21:57 UTC
My bad.

Fixed.

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theseamster April 13 2008, 17:53:23 UTC
No prob, I was giving you crap. ^__^

And what were you doing up at 9ish? Were you still up or did you only get three or four hours of sleep?

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