Art for Art's Sake

Oct 21, 2009 15:49

I just took a look at the Worldcon art show rules and I can't say they seemed to be geared towards the non profit fan enthusiast ( Read more... )

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msvda October 22 2009, 11:31:10 UTC
Money will be taken at any opportunity. Costs for everything have gone onwards and upwards. Public liability- don't even go there!! Never want to be involved in organizing anything again! As for WC's never been to one...

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thinarthur October 22 2009, 23:06:37 UTC
Well the Worldcons are (or should be) the premium sci-fi event, I've been to the '85 & '99 ones and greatly regret missing the '75. Because they have such a big international & interstate attendance and fuller programme they have much more atmosphere than the local usual suspect litcons or the give us your money procons, though the media side of the programming usually could be improved.

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the_dags October 23 2009, 02:49:52 UTC
I totally agree. I distinctly remember running into a US fan at A3 in '99 and she looked at my jacket with all the patches and lamented to her partner with a snicker "obviously a media fan ( ... )

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thinarthur October 23 2009, 02:56:22 UTC
One of the ironies of the situation is that some of the '85 media fans who complained about the W/C programming then are now the leading lights of lit fandom, but now think like the lit fans running things in '85 LOL.

My feeling with this sort of event is that you need to get EVERY type of SF fan aboard and make it a real big once a decade bash with every sort of thing on the programme that you can do, but will that happen?

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thinarthur October 23 2009, 03:22:43 UTC
As for your snooty lit fan, the "intellectual" barrier between Lit & Media SF has come together, twisted and snapped since the 80's to the extent where the average genre Movie/TV/Radio show is usually more advanced in story, characterisation, style and them than the average SF novel. For example, in the last week I've been reading Ben Bova's "Mars", (a not inconsiderable SF epic by a multi Hugo winner), and watched the Torchwood story "Adrift", and was much more moved by the conflicts and not easily resolved allegorical issues in that story than by the heavy handed characterisations of Bova's novel.

Now you might point out a dozen novels which can thematically make the Torchwood ep stand on its head and spin round and you may well be right, but what percentage do clever ass mind blast books form of what's published nowadays? I inherited a couple of big boxes of recent SF novels but I've had to give them to the op shop, they're written the way McDonald's make hamburgers.

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the_dags October 26 2009, 21:08:50 UTC
Perhaps you can call it "Mills and Boon SF".

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thinarthur October 29 2009, 03:00:38 UTC
Actually there were some prominent fans who did/do write for those sorts of publications but they used a psuedonym to escape the derisive sneers of 80's fandom. Interestingly I don't think that happens now, there's certianly no shame in writing a spinoff book.

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