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honkyplease May 27 2008, 23:02:17 UTC
First thought: the beginning of the universe disagrees with you.

Second thought: you are confusing the material with the immaterial/intellectual.

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thisisnotsean May 28 2008, 22:14:51 UTC
reply to first thought: perhaps what we believe is the beginning of the universe was a movement/manipulation of something else already existent

reply to second thought: you are correct, but perhaps the formulation of ideas comes about in a similar manner

(these are all conjectures)

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canto1138 June 10 2008, 04:42:23 UTC
Oh yeah, and how do you know the universe actually began?

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thisisnotsean June 10 2008, 07:44:35 UTC
my first reply covers that: "perhaps what we believe is the beginning of the universe was a movement/manipulation of something else already existent"

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im_binky May 27 2008, 23:23:19 UTC
blah blah blah blah blah

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canto1138 June 10 2008, 04:41:44 UTC
Though true in some senses; it just sounds like an excuse for completely unoriginal art to me.

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thisisnotsean June 10 2008, 07:48:55 UTC
it is not an excuse, simply a description. "original", in terms of both the physical (painting, song recording/performance, film strip, etc) and the cognitive (the idea driving the eventual physical manifestation of an art piece), seems to be used to describe things that inherently have traceable elements to previous manifestations/ideas. it is an accumulation/collage and/or manipulation/distortion of at least SOME things (physical or mental) that have already been made/expressed. (obviously this is not always entirely the case, but in general i believe it is true)

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