Comments | thisspacevacant: I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.

thisspacevacant

I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.

Feb 27, 2008 12:21

If you're playing a Ventrue, you should read Shakespeare's Julius Caesar Act 3 Scene 2. If you've read it before, you should read it again. Honestly, read the whole play, but pay special attention to that scene. Then, recognize that White Wolf canon places Mark Antony as an embraced Ventrue ( Read more... )

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noplate February 27 2008, 17:41:56 UTC

many, many people I game with have had this conversation about Vampire in general, not just Ventrue.

on a side note, if LARP was like the Rome series, I'd never sleep.

thisspacevacant February 27 2008, 17:47:14 UTC

Also true. But this character specifically is entirely imperative for Ventrue.

Other clans might be better represented by other characters in other plays. I can see Richard III more like a Lasombra, Tzimisce, maybe Brujah than a Ventrue. Henry V as a Brujah, etc.

Mark Antony is straight up Ventrue, though, and even WW claims him. Maintains subtlety and grace in mourning Caesar while rousing a rabble instead of passionately outright charging it himself like a Brujah might. It's the difference that counts him as Ventrue.

noplate February 27 2008, 18:00:25 UTC

Agreed, but he also comes off Lasombra or Setite at times.

But yeah I dont think people understand the depth and sublety in Shakesphere's and etc's plays with the politics, meanings, etc, or they just aint teaching it anymore in schools. I love that stuff.

thisspacevacant February 27 2008, 18:27:24 UTC

I think most people haven't read them since they were in high school, and few deeply understood anything they read in high school. They were too busy being teenagers. Few people seem to re-read anything they read back then, which is a shame specifically in the case of Shakespeare's stuff.

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arcstone February 27 2008, 19:23:40 UTC

Um, they don't already know that?

Sorry, but that's the whole reason I chose that clan. :-)

thisspacevacant February 27 2008, 21:41:07 UTC

Many do, I'm sure. :)

wastevens February 27 2008, 20:58:01 UTC

Hm. This does pose a question of 'Who is the iconic Shakespearian character for each of the Clans'.

Also, I need to read the Histories, it seems. *shameful confession*

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thisspacevacant February 27 2008, 21:43:29 UTC

Ya. I see MacBeth himself as more of a Gangrel or Brujah brute guy.

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thisspacevacant February 28 2008, 01:52:21 UTC

All the Ventrue PCs who come running to my Ventrue NPCs for "orders" make me tired sometimes. And then I go to sleep. Mm. Sleep. (:

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thisspacevacant February 28 2008, 02:00:06 UTC

Tempting.

I bet some people wouldn't even realize it was negative. (:

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