Odd realization yesterday....

Jul 16, 2008 09:28

Sitting in a conference on Virtualization I looked around the room (during the sales pitch portion) and did a head count ( Read more... )

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svava July 16 2008, 14:49:27 UTC
When I worked at Wildfire at one point we had 3 women sysadmins out of 4, but we were the exceptions by far, all the vendors who came in let me know that ( ... )

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dreda July 16 2008, 14:52:45 UTC
I was never an SA, but deskside support and (to an extent) presales are a lot closer to being an SA than development is. I dealt OK with my coworkers and supervisors (in part because there is a particular kind of discourse and language that's pretty "male" from a linguistic standpoint and I can do that), but clients definitely tended toward the "you'd know more if you were a guy."

Academia was a bit less so, in part because gentlemen of a certain age thought I reminded them of their granddaughters or something and just stayed out of my way, and in part because gender parity has been such an obvious and explicit goal. But even if your supervisor is decent about you being a girl, having it chucked at you by the people you're supposed to be supporting all the time just makes you fuckin' tired.

Also, no one is ever talking to support (including SAs) when they're happy. Cranky people will seize on any reason to be more cranky, and doofus sexism is in easy reach.

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bunnyjadwiga July 16 2008, 15:19:53 UTC
Sensible women don't want to work with the Bastard Operator from Hell-- and there's always at least one BOH and one pointy-haired boss for SysAdministration.

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ghislainedel July 16 2008, 15:28:50 UTC
Another thing that may influence that trend is that SA tends to be a 24/7 on call type of job. While I've been in the IT world for 13 years, that kind of job has had no temptation for me because someday, as a mother, I'll have a different 24/7 priority.

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rising_moon July 16 2008, 16:53:11 UTC
That is interesting. I'll add that my old company (which was bought by my current company) had a web development staff on which the women-to-men numbers were 8 and 3. In the new company, after several post-buy adjustments, we're at 3 and 45.

(I don't know about the SysAdmin numbers.)

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