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kseda in tinman_meta

Slly hats. And another thing!

Sep 03, 2009 13:55

Yes, yes, it's Thursday, silly hats for all, go to. I've found (a year and a half late) something that made my bitter, entitled, keeps-forgetting-the-show-was-not-about-her-favorite heart ANGRY at the writers: the Scene On The Log. And not the log cleverly disguised as a stump, either.

"Oh who am I kidding, this is all my fault. If I'd never ( Read more... )

silly hats, character: raw, character: glitch, canon is stoopid

Comments 9

rissy_james September 3 2009, 18:34:30 UTC

Silly hat.

Oh Goddess Keri please forgive this cut and paste response:

Glitch sure as hell didn't deserve the lot he got in life the miniseries. I'm trying to think of an instance when he wasn't the butt of the joke.

Maybe its just the nature of his relationship with Raw; the Viewer is just brutally honest. Cain always treats him with impatience bordering on annoyance, but with tolerance. DG is really the only one that acts affectionately toward him... the scene when he can't remember the Queen's name comes to mind first, she just accepts him, no matter how much or how little he has to offer.

What no one points out is that the "eternal darkness" scheme was just the one the Sorceress came up with because of the available materials (aka Sun-Seeder) ... if he hadn't invented the machine, she just would have come up with another crackpot scheme for a craptastic fate for the O.Z.

Also! Do the suns revolve around the O.Z.? Skience, I knows it.

kseda September 3 2009, 18:50:21 UTC

Do the suns revolve around the O.Z.?

The only way for me to accept ANY of the astronomy in the mini is to say yes, yes they do.

eleanor_ariail September 3 2009, 18:44:30 UTC

I... disagree. Okay, I know, in reality, it was probably just crappy writing like everything else in the show. But in my try-to-explain-away-the-crap world, Glitch has some major issues with guilt and maybe even self-hatred. Raw is empathic enough to know that sympathising right then would just feed into it, whereas being unexpectedly brusque and insensitive will shock Glitch out of the spiraling mental loop of despair.

erinm_4600 September 3 2009, 18:52:07 UTC

I'm on this side of the argument. Glitch needed a distraction and Raw did just that. Okay, the arrival of Toto/Tutor helped, too... but, still.

Had the conversation continued, Glitch would have probably defended himself to the point of realizing that it was, in fact, not all his fault, then pat Raw on the back for whatever reason and walk off rather chipper.

And Raw probably wouldn't have said another word, the entire time.

lionille September 3 2009, 18:48:50 UTC

Agreed that was very unlike Raw ( ... )

kseda September 3 2009, 19:56:39 UTC

Or I'm reading too much into it. Plus they were on that log for a while before Toto showed up so OH LOOK there might be fanfic.

And yes, we know how the better job at comforting would go. *pause* Baked goods. Lots of baked goods.

allronix1 September 3 2009, 19:44:45 UTC

To be fair, both the Royals had well...royally fucked up. Granted, DG was just a little child, didn't know any better, and thought she was helping someone. Ambrose thought that he had sabotaged the Sun Seeder plans once he realized it could be used as a weapon, but did not factor in Raynz.

(Forget Zero, THAT'S the scary bastard. On screen, he tortured three of the heroes, and ten to one, he had a hand in that Suit, making it four for four!)

I figured the two scenes happened concurrently. DG was beating herself up for essentially ordering information to be violently ripped out of one friend's head by another. (One hell of an order to give!) Glitch was reeling from the revelation of finally remembering What Really Happened. So, while Cain hand his hands full with the Princess, reminding her that sometimes leadership sucks, Raw was trying to apologize for being the one rampaging through Glitch's head. Unfortunately, Raw seemed to have rather limited experience with humans.

signy1 October 19 2009, 16:30:44 UTC

Unfortunately, Raw seemed to have rather limited experience with humans.

Hardly! He had plenty of experience with humans. Humans decimated his village and his people, kept him and however many others (including a child, gods forgive them,) in a cage, and tortured and mind-raped them to death, one by one. And don't forget the bit after Raw's recapture-- he got no sympathy from his cellmate, just brutal rejection and ostracism. He's carrying around so much self-loathing, it's a miracle he can stand upright under it all. Raw did better than that with Glitch, at least; maybe at the time it was the best he could have done.

I also think that with more time, the writers could have done better. There was at least an hour's worth of material in that single exchange.

shiftyjake September 4 2009, 02:58:22 UTC

I'm a huge Glitch fan, so it might sound strange but I actually liked the way the scene played out. The fact is, we have so much angsty guilt and guilty angst coming from DG and Cain that a simple "Yes, it's your fault. Deal." was rather refreshing ( ... )