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spectralbovine June 3 2013, 07:20:34 UTC
*HUGS*

Basically when anyone starts the book, this is the chapter you wait for them to get to. And so it's the episode we've been waiting for all you newbies to get to. Because holy goddamn motherfucking shit, even when you know it's coming, there's no way to be prepared for it. It's so brutal. So vicious. So distressing. And the worst part of it all is it's so inevitable. Look, I love Joss Whedon and all, but most of his deaths are like SURPRISE I KILLED SOMEONE AGAIN, and that hurts, but I think it hurts more when you realize that it was coming all along and you couldn't stop it.

I thought they did a great job with the Red Wedding. They should feel good for making you feel bad.

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toastandtea June 5 2013, 03:37:10 UTC
Yeah, i can imagine that being the book-throwing moment that people make it out to be. There's just NO lead-up to it even though it makes sense in the grand scheme of things. Like, we all knew Robb was fucking up and it would come back to bite him, but he seemed to be set up for a much longer timeline to maybe... unfuck some things. But nope. In the game of thrones you fuck things up and you die. D:

I see your point about Joss deaths -- as shocking as the GRRM deaths are, they serve a purpose in the larger chess game of the universe. Joss deaths are sort of like a kid melting one of his action figures; GRRM deaths are like a Rube Goldberg machine.

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milkradio June 3 2013, 08:32:34 UTC
Ohhhhh I want to say something comforting about Cat and Robb and Grey Wind and Arya, but I also don't want to spoil you for future seasons by saying anything at all, but yeah, basically this entire series is "This thing happened. And then it got worse." I didn't really like how the show handled Catelyn and Robb and I still don't get why they had to change Robb's bride's personality so much (Jeyne's not at all like Talisa in the books, but Talisa's ~not like other girls~ and all that), but even so I was actually tearing up a lot during this episode, uuuugh. I knew exactly what was going to happen, but Catelyn's face when you see them barring the doors and when they play The Rains of Castamere and you can see that she feels like something's not right and then they stabbed Talisa so horrifically and then killed Robb in front of his mother and she's already lost her husband and thinks that all her children are dead and her only grandchild-to-be has been killed too so for all she knows the entire Stark line is gone and uuuuuugh just kill ( ... )

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toastandtea June 5 2013, 04:19:38 UTC
basically this entire series is "This thing happened. And then it got worse."You'd think i would have figured that out by now, but every time you think it can't get worse IT DOES! It's like, how far down can you go from rock bottom? GRRM finds a way ( ... )

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toastandtea June 5 2013, 04:29:54 UTC
Show me a person who has fully recovered from the Red Wedding and i'll show you a liar!

If i'd known exactly what was coming i would be way too scared to watch it. Who the hell wants to see their nightmares made flesh? It keeps replaying in my head every moment that my brain is unoccupied. IT'S AWFUL

I can't believe how low we're running on direwolves now. IF NYMERIA DOESN'T SHOW UP AGAIN SOMEDAY I'M GONNA START A RIOT

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tunaeverynight June 3 2013, 15:22:06 UTC
Luckily the show spared us some of the truly ghastly Grey Wind things (either that or they're saving them for next week which... I hope not because this was horrible enough), but mostly just UGHHHHHHHH 5EVER D: D: D ( ... )

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toastandtea June 5 2013, 04:50:24 UTC
Oooh, yeah, i can imagine the music being all discordant and weird would add a whole other layer of unsettling to it. I do really love the lead-up to Cat figuring it out though. I always love the mounting dread of things being mysteriously amiss. Since i didn't know exactly when things were gonna go south (although i figured the end of the episode) even the veil obscuring the face of Edmure's bride was really worrying me. EVERYTHING WAS WORRISOME.

I can't even begin to imagine how MORE crazy stuff happens after this. HOW IS THERE MORE???!?!?!?!?! Although honestly i'm pretty glad that, aside from one other thing, i have no inkling of what else is coming -- i'm so tired of getting vaguely or majorly spoiled. I want that fresh feeling of unrelenting horror!

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tunaeverynight June 5 2013, 14:16:44 UTC
Although honestly i'm pretty glad that, aside from one other thing, i have no inkling of what else is coming -- i'm so tired of getting vaguely or majorly spoiled. I want that fresh feeling of unrelenting horror!

That's how I felt reading the book! I had been sort of spoiled for the Red Wedding so I was dreading it the whole book, but it happened a lot sooner than I thought it would so I got excited knowing there was so much left that I didn't know ANYTHING about. I'd say in terms of absolute gobsmacked horror, the RW is the worst of it, so that's why it was such a talked about thing. But there's definitely still a lot of meaty character things left for season four, including the introduction of my favorite character in the series (one I liken to Desmond Hume, tbh - not there from the get-go but things are instantly better once he's around, and he has the same sort of epic importance that I'd say Desmond had too - even though they're technically nothing alike. I JUST LIKE TO COMPARE THINGS TO DESMOND. SNIFF.)

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toastandtea June 6 2013, 01:36:13 UTC
!!!??!?!?!??!?! DESMOND-LIKE NEW CHARACTER !?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!!!!!????

OMGGGGGGG. I miss Desmond. ;______; Now i'm just imagining him in GoT having flashforwards (green dreams!!!!) and trying to prevent people from dying. Sigh.

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