Phillies, Keep On Overhauling

Jul 30, 2006 22:58

So Gillick's second big-time trade went down, now, trading Abreu away. I'm kinda sad about it, but not too much. I liked Bob-bay a lot, and I think he was definitely one of the Phils' underrated greats, so it's tough to lose a player like that. Though, it was also pretty clear that he wasn't the type of guy to really put the team on his back and ( Read more... )

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thekeepsake July 31 2006, 04:55:20 UTC
I agree note for note with your Phillies assessment. I was never much of a fan of Abreu. He can hit (but hasn't lately), but he's awful in the outfield. I still am not sure what we're getting out of that trade, but I guess we'll see.

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tubbs29 August 1 2006, 00:33:41 UTC
I didn't know you were a Phils fan. It seems we probably won't really get anything out of the trade, though you never know if any of the really young guys end up developing in their mid-20's like Chase or Ryan, but that's a big if. Who knows, maybe Gillick is now stockpiling the minorleaguers not only for our own system, but to then trade for some veterans down the line. We can hope.

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seke July 31 2006, 13:51:49 UTC
The Abreu trade was one of the worst trades I can ever recall. We got nothing for one of the best hitters in baseball for the last decade. None of the 4 guys we got are even halfway decent prospects. It was a complete salary dump. I'd rather have had 1 good prospect than 4 guys who probably will never contribute at the big league level.

Throwing in Lidle was completely awful because if we had kept him, we could have offered him arbitration and either got him at a reasonable (read: roughly what he's worth) salary if he accepted, and if he refused, we could have gotten likely 2 compensatory first round draft picks when someone else signed him.

And your faith in Nunez is irrational and ridiculous. He's awful, he's worse than Bell, and the fact that he's actually going to start the next 50 games at third makes me want to vomit a lot.

Gillick is doing an awful job so far this year.

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tubbs29 July 31 2006, 14:00:48 UTC
Isn't "irrational and ridiculous" exactly what faith is? :)

Such is the life of a Phillies fan, I suppose.

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xopchipili August 1 2006, 07:19:38 UTC
the best part is, on top of getting shit in return, you guys had to PAY ABREU to buy out his no-trade clause! Hes been out of form this year but getting thrown into a pennant race might light that spark again. It'll be interesting to see what happens when Sheffield's ready to come back (theoretically he'll be cleared to play in Sept.) If nothing else he'll provide some strong depth on the bench.

Yes thats right, All Star in Philly = solid backup in New York :)

And thanks for Lidle, we've been hurtin at the back end of the rotation, and it let us unload Chacon, who was brilliant down the stretch last year but has been terrible ever since. Lidle's mediocre, but he'll be new to most of the AL teams and he can put in the 6 innings a game we need before the pen takes over, and lord knows we can score enough to compensate for his shortcomings, esp now that we have Abreu :)

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