i gotta say, hell yeah (politics)

Oct 23, 2010 20:18

http://ma-vie-en-rose7.livejournal.com/36748.html

...that's what she said. And she was totally right.

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radiumhead October 24 2010, 03:22:22 UTC
haha, thats it EXACTLY.

Personally, the only reason I voted for him was that he wasnt John McCain. I wouldve voted for any democrat at all.

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pope_guilty October 24 2010, 11:19:22 UTC
I take extreme exception to the idea that anybody who could be described as "hard left" would have positive feelings toward Obama.

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dcart October 25 2010, 04:08:20 UTC
I don't understand it, but I saw an awful lot of it in 2008.

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pope_guilty October 25 2010, 04:16:11 UTC
Calling Obama fans "hard left" basically disappears down the memory hole anybody to the left of, oh, say, maybe a liiiitle to the left of center. I mean, seriously, do you believe that the progressive wing of the Democratic Party is as far left as it goes?

The hard left despises Obama for being a capitalist whose policies in the GWOT are more or less the same as his predecessor's, for being another Bill Clinton accommodationist who's more interested in cuddling up to and making pointless compromises with a right wing that despises him and wants him dead than any sort of actual left agenda. He's a Democrat, which is bad enough, and he's the worst kind of Democrat- the sort that fears the Republicans more than their own constituency.

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dcart October 25 2010, 04:52:17 UTC
I'm talking about people well left of the Green Party. I'm talking about people who have well developed critiques of national and international capitalism (and international socialist organizations, too). They were damned fond of Obama.

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dcart October 25 2010, 04:06:53 UTC
I was an Edwards supporter. I'm glad he lost, but I still believe in the agenda and the framing he gave it. I did not understand why my (often even more left than me) friends all fell in love with Obama so early. I had low expectations for his presidency. The funny thing, though, is that the areas where he has most impressed me are some of the ones where I most expected to be disappointed and vice versa. Nearly halfway through this term, I'm still not sure what to make of him on policy. On politics, he's turned out to be a lot more inept than I'd have ever guessed.

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