I saw it as sideways verse was purgatory and they were all waiting for each other there before moving on. Which I'm kind of confused about since they remember each other when they touch so I'm not getting why Jack and Juliet didn't recognize each other earlier, but then Jack remembered with the coffin, not with Kate, so maybe it's selective? Or Desmond said something about Ana Lucia "not being ready"? IDEK. I guess there's more questions now!
Re: More on this...uhzoomzipMay 24 2010, 04:53:01 UTC
Hi & welcome! Not sure if your comments were meant for me or emiliglia, but i'm jumping in anyway. :-)
That's actually what I'm leaning towards, that the AU was purgatory. And I totally agree about Jack resisting the little flashes he was getting from people (Locke, Kate). But why didn't Vincent get to go to the special place???
I think Jack was resisting - he got a flash of the island in the hospital with Locke, and then a flash with Kate. I got kind of a Sixth Sense vibe, like he didn't want to remember that he was dead.
re: the sideways 'verse as purgatory: depends on what you mean by purgatory. Didn't seem like a long slog through punishment, more like the way TV shows depict ghosts as spirits with unfinished business who need help to move on. Not that I'm saying they're ghosts, just that it seems to be about whether they're ready to move on or not, with past sins just being one potential reason why they couldn't (like Ben). But I might be wrong.
I loved how 'live together, die alone' ended up being a more important statement than any notion of good and evil, science vs. faith, whatever.
I guess I view purgatory as a place you're kind of hanging out while waiting to pass to the final destination (heaven/hell), but not necessarily a place where you have to prove your worth through trials & suffering. But admittedly, I have not studied it extensively, so that may just be my take on it.
Interesting point about Ben - I had just thought maybe he didn't feel worthy to 'move on' with these people, given he had killed/captured/tormented so many of them. He sort of redeemed himself in the end, as much as you can with that sort of thing, but still not enough to be part of the group.
That whole 'place where you can all find each other' thing just doesn't sit right with me, but it is what it is. There is SO MUCH MORE that happened in this finale, but this right here is ALL I can think of. I mean, it reminds me of Rose meeting up with Jack at the end of Titanic.
I am the only person on the planet who has not seen Titanic, so do elaborate on your comment.... is it so implausible it overshadows everything else, or so incredibly touching it overshadows everything else?
Well I don't know. In Titanic, the old lady Rose dies when she's like, 104 [I don't actually know]. She dies in her sleep. And then there's this sort of bright, glowy, slow-motiony reunion with Kate Winslet and Leo DiCaprio on the main staircase on the ship and EVERYONE from the Titanic is there, cheering or something.
I don't know, it's pretty cheesy. It's Titanic after all.
I just never thought Lost would end in a similar kind of way.
I don't mean this in a sarcastic way at all, but Jack had his woobie to take into the Land of We-Know-Not-What with him. It was a comforting image, and yes, i like the idea that Jack didn't die alone.
I guess the fact that they couldn't move on until they were together validated the whole "live together die alone" speech, huh?
I'm still confused about so much of it, but Jack's eye closing was the perfect end. There are no words for how much I will miss my crazy head-desking show.
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and yeah Vincent killed me there at the end. and the repetition.
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I can't believe it's over!!!
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That's actually what I'm leaning towards, that the AU was purgatory. And I totally agree about Jack resisting the little flashes he was getting from people (Locke, Kate). But why didn't Vincent get to go to the special place???
All in all, I thought it was pretty great myself.
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IDK, so much to ponder!
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I loved how 'live together, die alone' ended up being a more important statement than any notion of good and evil, science vs. faith, whatever.
Vincent definitely = god. :)
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Interesting point about Ben - I had just thought maybe he didn't feel worthy to 'move on' with these people, given he had killed/captured/tormented so many of them. He sort of redeemed himself in the end, as much as you can with that sort of thing, but still not enough to be part of the group.
Live together, die with Vincent! :-)
*hugs you tight*
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I don't know, it's pretty cheesy. It's Titanic after all.
I just never thought Lost would end in a similar kind of way.
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I guess the fact that they couldn't move on until they were together validated the whole "live together die alone" speech, huh?
I'm still confused about so much of it, but Jack's eye closing was the perfect end. There are no words for how much I will miss my crazy head-desking show.
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