Time again...

Nov 27, 2009 19:07

So why do people believe that space and time are two separate things. If time is defined as a measurement of movement and space is defined as matter, or the thing that is doing the moving, doesn't that make time an attribute of space. Maybe it's because our awareness of time is in our heads that we think time is a separate thing. We've even come to ( Read more... )

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asakiyume November 28 2009, 16:56:14 UTC
Yeah... time is what we call our experience of space, sort of? Maybe?

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umzio November 30 2009, 17:14:10 UTC
Yes, and our experience and our senses are so limited. Like the fact that some fluorescent bulbs are actually flashing, but at a frequency too fast for us to see. We can only experience that if we wave a pencil in front of the light.
With our limited experience, how can we ever make sense of it all?

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ladytetsu November 29 2009, 17:08:25 UTC
Space isn't deifned as matter, it's, well, space! It's the various degrees of freedom matter and energy can move in. And maybe it's a unique entity, we're not sure yet. Space is the number of ways a thing *can* move. Confusing, no ( ... )

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umzio November 30 2009, 17:38:30 UTC
Thanks! That definition of space could also be the definition for the 3rd dimension, right? I was going through the dimensions and naming them (yeah, I have a problem with naming things) and it seemed that only the first 2 had names. Line, Plane, then what? Three dimensional Space?

Also Matter and energy move though space; Does matter require energy to exist? and if it does, does that make it a form of energy?

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ladytetsu November 30 2009, 19:03:24 UTC
okay, yeah, here's how the various dimensions work - old example from Madeleine L'Engle, but elegant ( ... )

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ladytetsu November 30 2009, 19:05:26 UTC
durrr, I kan do fisix, kan't rememmer to do logging in. . . me dum.

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ladytetsu November 30 2009, 19:27:01 UTC
actually, I said above "The neat thing is this - you can NOT ever move faster than lightspeed through spacetime." What I should have said was you can't move at *any* speed other then c through *spacetime* - no faster, no slower, it all has to add up to c. Sorry 'bout that - that may help the rest of the explanation more clear.

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umzio November 30 2009, 22:42:50 UTC
Well, That certainly answers my original question anyway :)

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ladytetsu December 1 2009, 02:46:22 UTC
lol, sorry, I love physics, sometimes I just get on a roll. :) Shutting up now.

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umzio December 1 2009, 03:03:57 UTC
No, it's a great synopsis, I loved it! I'm just trying to simplify things in my mind. Get the basic facts organized and then follow in the philosophical direction that David Bohm took in his book "Wholeness and the Implicate Order". The focus being reality as a flow.

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