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... thought I was going to say Spike/Buffy, didn'tcha?
Nope.**
It occurred to me a few months ago that there's actually a delightful amount of parallels between these two pairs. I specifically have "&" instead of "/" because I'm looking for is a comparison between these two relationships that can (but doesn't necessarily) have to be hetero-romantic. Both sets have powerful friendships/relationships.
** Mostly because the comparison between Damon/Spuffy (and Bangel/Stelena) seems to be pretty established site of inquiry at this point?
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Yeah, but it's also the comparison that only works on a surface level, imo? I remember how once upon a time Alex compared Damon not to Spike, but to Faith. That worked pretty neatly.
Personally, I'm a fan of looking at Damon/Elena vs Spike/Drusilla. Obviously it only works to an extent, but it could be interesting, especially if we draw a cross-gendered parallel (Elena as Spike, Damon as Dru).
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In a shallow way that tries to divide fandom, imo. Basically that "of course Spuffy fans are going to be Delena fans because they are crazed and there's not much we can do about it" way of dismissing / starting shipper wars. Mostly I wanted a disclaimer that said: "I don't care about your shipper preferences." :)
I remember how once upon a time Alex compared Damon not to Spike, but to Faith.
ooh! I could see heaps of beautiful potential in that!
(Elena as Spike, Damon as Dru)
*grabby hands*
I think you have said this before - and I pretty much love it! There's potentially even more fodder for this after S4 - what with all of Damon's "let me hold your hand, baby vampire" and the creep-factor. Especially maybe an in-depth comparison between the Damon/Elena blood-sharing sequence vs. the "let's vamp my mum" scene?
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Yeah, exactly -- especially the "baby vampire" thing. But also the way Elena constructs her identity after she turns, rejects social expectations ("She delivered me from mediocrity" "This is who I am now."), and does it mostly while leaning on Damon. Could we risk saying that Damon, like Drusilla, makes himself a vampire "soulmate"? I mean, he does it unintentionally, but that's what it boils down to.
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hmm... more "dismissive" than belittling is what I meant. That those who ship a certain "type" (the Good Girl/Bad Vampire cliche) are always going to ship that way and there's no need for discussion of how that makes no sense at all. For the most part, shippers in both fandoms seem dismissive of "the other side" and the division / presumed difference in shipping habits.
Could we risk saying that Damon, like Drusilla, makes himself a vampire "soulmate"? I mean, he does it unintentionally, but that's what it boils down to.I think this ..... I need to think on this. I don't know how much of this is true. Are we speaking of the sire bond? In which case, idk - Drusilla actively sought out William to turn him - he saw the world the same way that she did and she went after his humanity with a single-minded recklessness. Damon's interactions with Elena were more subtle.... just as selfish, but he "trained" her to know him the way I think we ( ... )
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It's funny you mention D/E and Spike/Dru though because I've always felt like there's a very superficial analogy between Damon/Katherine --> Damon/Elena and Spike/Dru --> Spike/Buffy. Like, there's something interesting there about the bad boy archetypes rejecting one (demonic) maternal/"mentor" figure for another -- and the implied Madonna/Whore complex therein. And... my brain stops at that point, but thought I'd throw that one out there!
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