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Feb 22, 2011 13:26

A simple question.

Imagine there is a box that can fit a cat inside. Now, is the cat dead or alive?

Also: to those who know about Team Rocket -- onii-chan thought of an interesting theory about it. We can't prove if it's true or not, though. A Devil's Proof.

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[Text] saving_violins February 22 2011, 23:55:54 UTC
Hm... The answer would be that there isn't enough information to know.

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[text] usedpiece February 23 2011, 00:00:36 UTC
Maybe.

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[text] saving_violins February 23 2011, 00:05:46 UTC
Well you never said what the box is made out of, if there are holes to let it breath, the age of the cat, whether there is anything else in the box, how long the cat would be in there or anything else.

Some details are needed yknow.

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[text] usedpiece February 23 2011, 00:08:02 UTC
It's an ordinary box. [Yeah you're overthinking it, sis]

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text. usedfakeout February 23 2011, 00:03:23 UTC
Before we can determine what state the cat is in, we must ascertain whether it exists at all.

Most theories start out without proof. What is the nature of this theory, if I might ask?

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text. usedpiece February 23 2011, 00:05:17 UTC
Have you heard of Schrödinger's cat?

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text. usedfakeout February 23 2011, 00:11:47 UTC
If we are discussing Schrödinger's cat, you have misstated the premise.

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text. usedpiece February 23 2011, 00:22:12 UTC
Perhaps I should have reworded it.

But what are your thoughts on it?

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[Text] youhavemybat February 23 2011, 00:14:59 UTC
A Devil's... Proof? The theory about if something exists or not, right...?

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[text] usedpiece February 23 2011, 00:19:43 UTC
It can be a Devil's Proof.

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[text] youhavemybat February 23 2011, 00:21:14 UTC
What did Battler have to say about Team Rocket? I'm all ears.

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[text] usedpiece February 23 2011, 00:22:43 UTC
Team Rocket and the police might be working together.

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text. reimprovise February 23 2011, 00:38:44 UTC
[Oh man Schrödinger's. Oishi tried to apply it to tennis by using it to explain how determined they should be to win nationals. He's of the opinions that the less books about hypothetical situations Oishi reads, the better.]

Funny. Isn't that the sort of question that only the cat knows the answer to even though it benefits it the least?

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text. usedpiece February 23 2011, 01:38:04 UTC
It is, though it's not whether or not the cat knows, it's about whether the people outside the box knows.

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text. reimprovise February 23 2011, 01:39:50 UTC
If they really wanted to find out, couldn't they just ask the cat?

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text. usedpiece February 23 2011, 02:47:28 UTC
Only if they can open the box. Probably.

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[text] graildilf February 23 2011, 02:10:08 UTC
The cat is neither dead nor alive. As a matter of fact, the cat may not even be in the box.

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[text] usedpiece February 23 2011, 02:46:45 UTC
What happens if it isn't there?

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[text] graildilf February 23 2011, 03:04:13 UTC
Then we don't know where it is. If we take Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle into account, that makes finding the cat that much harder as it could be anywhere.

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[text] usedpiece February 26 2011, 20:01:44 UTC
Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle?

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