Comments | v3el: Spaceship Moon

v3el

Spaceship Moon

May 23, 2005 18:51

Yes...I know I recently ranted about him before, but my sister's husband and I actually do have SOME things in common. We both share the same political views and we don't exactly trust our government. However, John tends to take the conspiracy shit a bit too far almost to the point that I often have to question his paranoia as being a state of ( Read more... )

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... professorbooty May 24 2005, 05:21:15 UTC

It's not a perfectly circular orbit, just very close to one. The distance from Earth to Luna varies from ~364,397km to ~406,731km.

is it also a coincidence that the moon is at just the right distance from the earth to completely cover the sun during an eclipse?

Yes.

We have pictures of the "dark" side of the moon. It's pretty boring, no engines, sphinxes, or alien love temples.

From wikipedia:
The Moon is in a synchronous rotation with Earth, which means that one side of the Moon (the "near side") is permanently turned towards Earth. The other side, the "far side", mostly cannot be seen from Earth, except for small portions near the limb which can be seen occasionally due to libration. Most of the far side was completely unknown until the era of space probes. This synchronous rotation is a result of torque having slowed down the Moon's rotation in its early history, a process known as tidal locking ( ... )

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Re: ... professorbooty May 24 2005, 07:43:56 UTC

I'm glad I amuse you with my rational thinking and my acceptance of the value of years upon years of scientific research -- all subject to public review and independent verification of both data and conclusions -- over the half-baked ravings of a few paranoid and delusional weirdos on the fringe ( ... )

Re: ... v3el May 24 2005, 12:27:33 UTC

Ok well I deleted the post earlier and started retyping shit and of course got distracted by something else like I always tend to and came back, so my post is below this one...oh well.

I'm glad I amuse you with my rational thinking and my acceptance of the value of years upon years of scientific research -- all subject to public review and independent verification of both data and conclusions -- over the half-baked ravings of a few paranoid and delusional weirdos on the fringe.

Dayv this exactly what I'm talking about below...please reread. I think you are putting too much pride and value into something you've invested some time in which is perfectly fine, but then to turn around and place judgement on some people with some legitimate claims who have also done years of research and putting them into the "smoking too much dope" category is nothing more than the usual cop out that I would expect from you. you probably don't even know anything about this one particular author that I was referring to either.

I want to see you overcome ( ... )

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eriss May 24 2005, 07:42:09 UTC

However, John tends to take the conspiracy shit a bit too far almost to the point that I often have to question his paranoia as being a state of mental illness.

Pot...kettle. ;)

Also, don't know if you ever saw this...if not enjoy: http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/

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... professorbooty May 24 2005, 14:34:33 UTC

If you don't debunk these people's ideas, they say it's because you can't

If you do debunk their ideas, they ask why you're so obsessed with convincing people that they're wrong.

v3el May 24 2005, 15:10:47 UTC

What's funny about the guy that put that site together is he is actually a big fan of Jim Marrs, the author I was referencing above. LOL! They both speak at conferences together, so it's kinda funny that you would post his sitchiniswrong.com site. As pompous as Michael S. Heiser comes across, his findings and theories are even more bizarre than Sitchins really.

In reading a few of Sitchin's books, they are definitely interesting and the guy apparently is one of many few who can understand ancient Sumarian text. That's not to say that he couldn't have possibly made some errors along the way....I don't doubt that he has, but I do think there is some truth in what he has written.

... professorbooty May 24 2005, 14:43:15 UTC

Also Dayv, I don't view your responses as a personal attack either. I do respect what you say and I actually do enjoy reading some of your posts, but something tells me that you are not capable of showing the same level of respect towards others that might not agree with you. just my observation.

It's very difficult to disagree with someone almost completely and not come across as a bit of an asshole, unless you say nothing at all.

A lot of the theories that you've been posting about lately are, to my perspective, traps for the unwary mind. If I didn't respect you, I wouldn't try to refute some of them, I'd just stop reading.

I'm glad that you're asking big questions, but I'm disappointed with the answers you seem to be finding. I think you're smarter than that. Of course, you would probably feel that I'm too smart not to arrive at some of the same places, or you wouldn't bother listening to my disagreement. Life is funny like that.

I will leave it with this:

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof."

Re: ... v3el May 24 2005, 15:39:59 UTC

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

A bit too black and white considering that sometimes what one person may think of as being extraordinary proof may not be to someone else.

It's like, if alien beings decide to offically make themselves known by landing here on Earth, you will still have people not convinced by this extraordinary proof that there is other life out there. I'm sure you will hear the religious fanatics saying that it is the work of the devil.

Re: ... professorbooty May 24 2005, 16:40:37 UTC

v3el May 25 2005, 06:57:39 UTC

Clearly, the meaning of "extraordinary proof" is subjective and will vary from situation to situation. If aliens made themselves known, you'd have a bunch of true skeptics surprised but pleased by this new knowledge, a few religious nuts claiming that the aliens (like everything else they don't understand) are the work of the Adversary, and a few paranoid delusional types claiming that the "aliens" are the work of a shadow government conspiracy designed to hide the real truth from the masses.Which is why certain beings don't really make themselves known for a reason Dayv. You've really just proved some of my previous points. We're not ready for certain truths yet which seems very apparent by this discussion ( ... )

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v3el May 26 2005, 06:26:53 UTC

Of Course! I'm pretty new to CO. so the more friends the better. LOL.