Intellectual Free For All: American Politics I

Jun 04, 2008 21:46

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ex_annemarie10 June 5 2008, 02:06:19 UTC
I personally think Hillary said she would consider taking the vice presidency just to put added pressure on Obama. Her supporters are already mad enough at Obams. Now, if he doesn't offer her the number 2 spot, they will be even madder ( ... )

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vanish June 6 2008, 03:55:13 UTC
I don't think it's just Americans with a short collective memory -- it's afflicting everyone. All it takes are a few years before people just forget even the most horrible world events. We have some Holocaust survivors who are still alive today, and how many people really understand what an atrocity that was? How world leaders handled it? Something small like rallying the troops has maybe 6 months' lasting power in people's collective memory. It's pretty sad.

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mrs_dragon June 5 2008, 03:14:08 UTC
Obama, Hillary, McCain...UGH. And that's all I'm saying about that.

As for Bush, he will undoubtedly be remembered. He has f*cked up WAY too much to NOT go down in the history books. Idiot.

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vanish June 5 2008, 13:31:55 UTC
Of course he'll be remembered; what I'm curious about, though, is what people will be saying many years from now, when most of us are dead or very old. I'm thinking our history books will toss in a few sterile sentences that sum everything up without really telling people what it was lke: "Our 43rd president, George W. Bush, was elected into office right before the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York City. This prompted him to announce a 'War on Terror' in October 2001. This controversial war lasted X years."

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mrs_dragon June 12 2008, 01:46:59 UTC
I'm thinking our history books will toss in a few sterile sentences that sum everything up without really telling people what it was lke: "Our 43rd president, George W. Bush, was elected into office right before the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York City. This prompted him to announce a 'War on Terror' in October 2001. This controversial war lasted X years."

Pretty much. I mean history is never interesting until everyone alive then is dead and you can make up your own version. ^_^

Besides, in my high school at least, we never went past WWII. (And that was the AP class!)

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nosmokegirl June 5 2008, 05:22:24 UTC
Bush will be remembered for the war in Iraq, and for being the president that was in office when 9/11 happened (whether you think he did a good job of it or not).... I'm guessing Bush will be remembered for a lot more once a few years have passed and a bunch of those conspiracy theories about the war surface and turn out to be true.

remember Osama Bin Ladin? yeah, neither do I, that whole thing was a damn ruse to get us into Iraq... but anyways

As far as the Obama/Hilary thing, the most annoying thing about the whole ordeal will be that people will be pulling the racism/sexism cards out and waving them all around, and that will be really really irritating.

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maereth June 5 2008, 10:23:17 UTC
re: Obama/Clinton ticket ( ... )

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dean_r June 5 2008, 19:46:41 UTC
I think of Guiliani as the Mayor of NYC who tried to handle the catastrophe 9/11, rather than thinking that Bush was the president when 9/11 happened ( ... )

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mrs_dragon June 12 2008, 01:49:09 UTC
As an aside, I asked someone with synesthesia (she can see lines of colour when people speak) who she was voting for, she said Hillary without flinching. She told me that when people lie, she can see the colour of their words change to a jagged green, and she's seen that occur a lot with Obama.

That jives with the "feel" I get from Obama. It drives me crazy that he is so beloved as the bringer of "change" when he is clearly just more of the same only in sheep's clothing.

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