NSFW peta ad and vegan/raw diet question..... long

Nov 19, 2009 10:57

so anyway i am once again trying to make a transition to mostly vegan ( Read more... )

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owlsie November 19 2009, 16:08:28 UTC
why does being allergic to garlic make a vegan diet difficult?

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fabricdragon November 19 2009, 16:34:38 UTC
because almost all the recipes call for garlic as an integral part of the taste, and its in EVERYTHING vegan at the restaurants i have been to.

no pasta dishes
the vegetarian soup bases are garlic usually...
salads have heavy garlic loads in them (or raw onions) for flavor

basically its either garlic (in a vegan dish) or cheese(in a vegetarian dish) which means i usually cant do the vegan options.

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miss_bonzai November 19 2009, 17:28:20 UTC
It's actually really difficult to eat out and avoid garlic. Add vegan on top of that, and it's damn near impossible. I am vegan and my godmother is allergic to garlic, and even in the vegan Mecca of Portland Or, we had a *really* tough time going out.

Obviously anythings possible, but it's not unrealistic for the OP to recognize the added difficulty of their particular restriction.

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fabricdragon November 19 2009, 17:51:46 UTC
i was beginning to wonder what was up, since the first two comments were "how does that make it tough ( ... )

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owlroot November 19 2009, 16:26:37 UTC
No exaggeration. The weight, for most people it seems, falls off. But everyone is different.

A good book to read would be 'Skinny Bitch', in my opinion.

I have the same question kaptnjack does. I don't understand how that makes it difficult. There are plenty of other veggies you can cook with besides garlic and onions.

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fabricdragon November 19 2009, 16:36:41 UTC
ok, YOU find a vegan restaurant that doesnt use garlic as their soup base?
or a place that has vegan and non vegan food where the vegan food isnt garlic or raw onions

i havent been able to.
all the vegan soups i have tried that were not plain tomato, are loaded with garlic. all the suaces, dips, etc are loaded with it.

as long as i cook at home, sure. i can choose what i put into it, but i TRAVEL for a living

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owlsie November 19 2009, 16:39:41 UTC
the weight falls off because the body doesn't create it's own fat... all the fat in a human body [of an omnivore] is unused animal fat.

which makes perfect, logical sense, but when i was first told that, it blew my mind, and added one more reason to be disgusted by meat.

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fabricdragon November 19 2009, 16:51:21 UTC
i dont think thats possible.
the "all your fat is from meat eating"
because the healthy human body still has fat on it...otherwise you stop menstruating and your hormones go wacky.

i will certainly grant that most of the EXCESS fat on a human body is from eating fatty food.

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anikatula November 19 2009, 17:11:19 UTC
I would say that it is an exaggeration to some extent, and that following a vegan diet for the main purpose of losing weight may just be a disappointment - then again, if you had a relatively fatty unhealthy diet to begin with, of course you will lose some amount of weight when you transition to a vegan diet. I couldn't say whether it would be some revolutionary, weight just melting off your body kind of weightloss, but it would probably be at least a little ( ... )

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fabricdragon November 19 2009, 17:39:39 UTC
sadly its in most pre packaged vegetarian food, and almost all pre packaged vegan food ( ... )

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anikatula November 19 2009, 23:26:42 UTC
Well, to me it would seem that things are still available sans garlic and onions... salads can be gloriously healthy and interesting without onions and garlic, Japanese,Thai, and a pretty decent amount of South American and African food tends not to always contain garlic or onions, from my experience. To me, it is not worth getting hung up on what you can't eat, but rather what you can eat!

As for airbrushing, it is the same thing as photoshopping - changing the appearance of someone in an image for the purpose of making them more "attractive," albeit less realistic. Yes, I believe that you were that thin at some point, but I don't believe that most vegans or vegetarians would a) be that thin, or b) be so completely without flaw, simply as a function of their diet.

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onlyananimal23 November 19 2009, 17:39:37 UTC
I was Vegetarian for 9 years prior to going Vegan. When I went Vegan i lost 1 1/2 stone! I managed to put it back on (and more) over the course of 5 years though!

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fabricdragon November 19 2009, 17:42:41 UTC
nods.
i know whenever i have radically changed my diet i initially lost weight. then usually *either* went back to old habits... or apparently found a way to gain weight on the new diet.

a stone is , like 14 pounds? right?
i need to get. ummmm..... probably 6 stone off then.

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leahxvx November 19 2009, 18:05:47 UTC
Peta is very sexist. ugh.

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fabricdragon November 19 2009, 19:11:39 UTC
i suspect strongly that that would be one fo the nicer things i could say about PETA. i am not a fan.

its just that my comic con email had that photo, and it then reminded me of my whole "is going vegan REALLY likely to make me lose weight all by itself" question....

plus, frankly.. i have a VERY poor ability to judge a persons build in clothing. clothes can disguise or change your "apparent" figure a lot. so i am trying to see if my impressions are... objective?
to me all the models i see need to eat more, she at least doesnt look like she is starving. she has arms, for instance.
so to some extend i am trying to ask if "this looks like a healthy goal?" because i really cant tell.

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anikatula November 19 2009, 23:27:27 UTC
Yeah, I find it pretty gross and frustrating. :/

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