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miriams_well April 13 2010, 16:02:49 UTC
Listening.

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some heretical thoughts alobar April 13 2010, 17:57:15 UTC
> Hear Me, and make all Spirits subject unto Me:
> so that every Spirit of the Firmament and of the Ether:
> upon the Earth and under the Earth:
> on dry Land and in the Water:
> of Whirling Air, and of rushing Fire,
> and every Spell and Scourge of God
> may be obedient unto Me

Something I have noticed over the years is that Uncle AL and his magickal contemporaries really seem to get off on
a) being confrontational,
b) emphasizing dualism, ad
c) mirroring the imperialism of the Brit Empire.

To me, the path of magick isn't about subjugation, doing battle, or demanding fealty from others.

I re-write prayers and invocations to reflect my worldview and my Great Work. To me, it is about harmony within the spiritual eco-system. As Bob Wilson used to say, true communication only occurs between equals.

For example, here is my re-write of the English translation of the A-Ka-Dua.

Unity uttermost showed!
We adore the might of thy breath;
Supreme & terrible God
Who makest the gods and death
To tremble before thee;-
We think you're cool!

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Kleshes panshiva April 13 2010, 22:01:28 UTC
Most people who really do this stuff go somewhat crazy and that's why historically "Seeking a Vision" was done outside the confines of mundane life. You left the tribe, went up in the mountain or went on a walkabout and wailed/cried/pined for your spirit animal and guides to come. You were tested, torn apart, taunted, and hopefully your guide helped you reintegrate. The HGA process of the West is different as its seen to take place within the framework of urbane life. That said, if you look at it, it trys to create a "Cocoon" around the aspirant so they minimize distractions. I think its pretty hard to do this without paring down outside activity, limiting social engagements, ect...

Hope you have a breakthrough and not a breakdown in your "Cracking."

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sandrak April 14 2010, 00:58:18 UTC
I worry about the validity (not to mention the utility) or any system that results in life being significantly harder and less functional over more than a very short period. And only then when it results in greater life after.

Plenty of people have thrown themselves into painful mysteries, only to never find their way out-and therefore never have any ability to share or benefit from them.

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tandu April 14 2010, 15:14:46 UTC
I made the commitment to be a priest years ago.

I said "Here I am, Lord. Send me."

At the time, he didn't. But eventually, he did.

When I finally started pursuing Abremelin, it was more a matter of easing into it than anything else. I don't feel I'm all integrated in all parts of my life. But my HGA and I are one of purpose. We serve The Most High.

I've come to realize that I only have a limited amount of time before I die. I'm trying to focus on those things which are important for me to get done before I die, and leave everything else. I have a list of 50 before 50, and some of it is selfish and some of it is service oriented. And I'm chipping away at it.

But it focuses on what's important to me: Travel, family, learning, leaving something behind. Something to survive me. I remember Ozymandias, but would feel remiss if I did not try.

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quincidence April 15 2010, 00:13:00 UTC
here is the things about being handed as much and never more than you can handle.
if you are a ceo, who do you hand a great and sensitive project? That is right, the really busy guy. He knows how to get things done. The man whose desk is clean... is mistakenly thought to be done with everything, but if he were good material, he would know.. work is never done... and would have sought out new material instead of bragging he was done.

So... as for you... you are strong, and you will find stability, but first, you need inner strength to tell yourself no and yes, instead of well kinda...

It is as I grow and learn in martial arts that I learn more and more how MUCH I do not know... thus is how you feel more and more lacking, is that your are more focused and called upon.

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