yeah, they are pretty cool. apparently in ireland it means that your education is capped at an undergraduate degree, and only the women wear them. some girls doing politics didn't wear it, as a sign of protest, but that was just plain stupid, coz they looked pretty :)
thanks chick, will try to post some where you can actually see the full hairstyle, but don't have the usbs on me at present. jim took most of the pics, and he's really good at it!
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