Dissent and debate are the highest forms of Patriotism.
FYI: I have collected a list of quotes on the importance of dissent here. That one seems to have started with historian Howard Zinn:While some people think that dissent is unpatriotic, I would argue that dissent is the highest form of patriotism. In fact, if patriotism means being true to the principles for which your country is supposed to stand, then certainly the right to dissent is one of those principles. And if we're exercising that right to dissent, it's a patriotic act. And I would like to add the words of Edward R. Murrow, in response to McCarthyism:"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty," he said, in 1954. "We must remember always that accusation is not proof, and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear - one, of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of un-reason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men; Not from men who feared to write, to
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You know you have to wonder if those who finally put McCarthy era in its place would think of a president who brought us back to such an age of fearful insanity.
*snorts with amusement* You know, it floors me when I hear ANYONE say Clinton was worse. Hello? We had a budge SURPLUS under Clinton, not a DEFICIT. Yeah, we had two terrorist bombings under his watch, and you know what? Timothy McVeigh is DEAD, and the guys who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993? They're not getting out of prison for what, 240 years? Yeah, we actually CAUGHT them!! Oh, and FEMA? When Clinton was in the White House, FEMA actually WORKED!!
So Clinton smoked a couple of stogies soaked in Monica's juices. And this is worse than the Shrub slavishly slobbing Cheney's knob HOW, might I ask??
10 minutes of Patriotism?serengwenJuly 6 2007, 17:23:51 UTC
Heya Sine!
I'm not only as disgusted as you are, I'm more than willing to bring back the good ol' Anarchy t-shirts!! However, if you want 10 minutes of in-your-face patriotism, go over to youtube and check out Keith Olbermann's rant of July 3rd from MSNBC. OHMYGAWDESS - I was standing up applauding and saluting the man!!!
What kind of twisted mindset puts blowjob in the same context as lying us into a war, outing a CIA agent, and a national debt that only Reagan could have been proud of. Hello reality check!Here's the Reality
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Yes I take my oaths very seriously...all oaths. And if I was under oath in a court of law, and that oath came into conflict with my oath to my coven and trad guess who wins? I will lie, I will commit perjury to protect those I love
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Yes I take my oaths very seriously...all oaths. And if I was under oath in a court of law, and that oath came into conflict with my oath to my coven and trad guess who wins? I will lie, I will commit perjury to protect those I love.
Your actions are irrelevant. As I am certain that you are not a former Governor of Arkansas, with a history of sexual improprieties, one of which has landed you in the discovery process in a Federal Court, while President of the United States, and as such there is no reason to swear to tell the truth under Oath.
You really think Bill Clinton loved Monica Lewinsky?
Hell if it comes into conflict with any even implied oath to someone I love...screw the Rule of Law.
Then I am unsure why you would complain at all.
The Shrub has committed treason, he has condoned treason, he is complicit in treason. That is how I define High Crime."...and misdemeanors...." IMO, the Founders considered criminal misconduct to be objectionable in a public official, and provided a mechanism for dealing with officials
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There's not much point in the House impeaching the Shrub and Dick Cheney. It wouldn't do any good. We saw in the Clinton impeachment trial before the Senate the weakness of the impeachment process: it's a meaningless show if there's no realistic chance of obtaining the 2/3 majority necessary to convict. Nancy Pelosi is a sufficiently astute politician to realize this for herself. The sun is more likely to rise in the West than are 18 Republican senators to vote to convict George W. Bush.
The Founding Fathers simply did not anticipate party divisions so intense that impeachment votes in the Senate would divide strictly upon party lines. They appear to have assumed that the Senators would set party loyalties aside and hear the case impartially. We have seen how that works these days.
I'm afraid that we are stuck with the Shrub & Co for another seventeen months.
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FYI: I have collected a list of quotes on the importance of dissent here. That one seems to have started with historian Howard Zinn:While some people think that dissent is unpatriotic, I would argue that dissent is the highest form of patriotism. In fact, if patriotism means being true to the principles for which your country is supposed to stand, then certainly the right to dissent is one of those principles. And if we're exercising that right to dissent, it's a patriotic act.
And I would like to add the words of Edward R. Murrow, in response to McCarthyism:"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty," he said, in 1954. "We must remember always that accusation is not proof, and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear - one, of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of un-reason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men; Not from men who feared to write, to ( ... )
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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So Clinton smoked a couple of stogies soaked in Monica's juices. And this is worse than the Shrub slavishly slobbing Cheney's knob HOW, might I ask??
*snaps a Z*
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I'm not only as disgusted as you are, I'm more than willing to bring back the good ol' Anarchy t-shirts!! However, if you want 10 minutes of in-your-face patriotism, go over to youtube and check out Keith Olbermann's rant of July 3rd from MSNBC. OHMYGAWDESS - I was standing up applauding and saluting the man!!!
Hugs to you!
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Your actions are irrelevant. As I am certain that you are not a former Governor of Arkansas, with a history of sexual improprieties, one of which has landed you in the discovery process in a Federal Court, while President of the United States, and as such there is no reason to swear to tell the truth under Oath.
You really think Bill Clinton loved Monica Lewinsky?
Hell if it comes into conflict with any even implied oath to someone I love...screw the Rule of Law.
Then I am unsure why you would complain at all.
The Shrub has committed treason, he has condoned treason, he is complicit in treason. That is how I define High Crime."...and misdemeanors...." IMO, the Founders considered criminal misconduct to be objectionable in a public official, and provided a mechanism for dealing with officials ( ... )
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The Founding Fathers simply did not anticipate party divisions so intense that impeachment votes in the Senate would divide strictly upon party lines. They appear to have assumed that the Senators would set party loyalties aside and hear the case impartially. We have seen how that works these days.
I'm afraid that we are stuck with the Shrub & Co for another seventeen months.
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And I totally agree with you. Blowjobs are a far cry from what the terrible two have done.
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