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vespid_interest June 27 2009, 06:08:49 UTC
Short-wave radio? But who has one of those. And hardly secure... unless a protocol has been developed to transmit encrypted binary over shortwave, like the old-style modems that hooked up to a telephone receiver.

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vokzal June 27 2009, 08:43:14 UTC
IP over radio! hey, i was on tv that was sent over ham radio once.
But something tells me that wouldn't work for this distance.

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vokzal June 27 2009, 08:43:50 UTC
er, tv, that is. i don't know what kind of transit rates you get for that stuff.

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twoeleven June 27 2009, 19:30:08 UTC
which distance? the link doesn't have to bridge iran to the us, just iran to someplace which connects to the outside world.

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deskitty June 27 2009, 09:05:06 UTC
In other words, Western countries aren't looking too much better in terms of freedoms here, we're just not hauling people off to prison and not telling families where they are. (Um, I think....)

You know, it's really funny you should mention that. The LJ post immediately after yours on my friends list touches on this very topic:

Obama administration officials, fearing a battle with Congress that could stall plans to close the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, are crafting language for an executive order that would reassert presidential authority to incarcerate terrorism suspects indefinitely, according to three senior government officials with knowledge of White House deliberations.

Such an order would embrace claims by former president George W. Bush that certain people can be detained without trial for long periods under the laws of war.

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habeas corpus vokzal June 27 2009, 09:43:11 UTC
Well, you know, there seemed to be very little cry of protest when we lost habeas corpus. So sure....

As long as it's those Other People and not us.

otoh: if you talk to a certain ex-russian friend of ours, he's very happy to now be an american citizen. there are some real differences: perhaps in terms of scale and fear. obviously we didn't rise up into mass protests in 2000, and i live in fear of hate crime, not secret police.

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Re: habeas corpus deskitty June 27 2009, 17:06:25 UTC
I'm generally trying to remove fear from my life.

But I'm definitely concerned. I wouldn't have said this 10 years ago, but my feeling now is there is a distinct possibility the US government will, officially or unofficially, go after people who say things it doesn't like.

That's not acceptable, and I'm somewhat appalled there isn't more outrage. Given that, maybe we deserve a police state. :p

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Re: habeas corpus twoeleven June 27 2009, 19:31:47 UTC
we lost habeas? not afaik... to the best of my knowledge, the supremes said that even non-citizens are entitled to it.

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