Apparently these students were "proud" of membership of this page, which I find a bit of a worry if true.
The page did exist for a few months. It was removed by Facebook after complaint(s). Members of this page boasted of their exploits and not taking 'no' as an acceptable response from women.
More rapes allegedly occurred. Allegedly?
The term 'allegedly' is used as a legal means of protecting the writer from legal action for defamation, liable and other civil actions. As with most of these cases the assaulted (women) decide not to proceed with Police/court because the pusuit of justice can be as traumatic as the original crime.
It doesn't mean it never occured, just that no conviction was recorded or no guilty plea made in court or no charges were laid.
Ruth has broken a sensational story with absolutely NO solid evidence!
You know this how? I think you lack the evidence to make such an assertion.
We can't even see this alleged Facebook page and decide for ourselves!It was removed as violating the Terms Of Service of
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As I said, if this page did exist and contain content that was actually promoting rape, then I am shocked and the people involved need to be dealt with - no arguments there
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...when there is no court case, no police report filed, something like this is certainly no more than gossip and heresay!
For something to be considered 'news worthy' and to be reported on there has to be a court case or a police report? No smoking gun = it never happened?
Ruth doesn't even quote the page.
Why quote something that is no longer there to be verified?
I have seen the facebook page in question. The University administrators and the University College administrators have seen the page. Current and former students are identified. What has either administration done about this prior to it becoming public?
Nothing.
Since it became public?
Consulted respective lawyers.
And those current students identified?
Nothing.
As for the Top 5 law firms - think of the alumni that would come out of pauls and you would have your answer.
Every university college has alumni within the legal fraternity...but on speed dial?
...it was that the Sydney Uni college society (not just pauls) encourages or condones that, which in my
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So you've seen this page? How? If it was deleted in August, how did you see a copy of it? You've obviously been on top of this or close to the action, may I ask how you are connected? If you've seen the page, then Ruth should have seen the page - why could she not quote it? It's been archived, why can't these archives be printed (at least in part?). That is what I don't understand.
You state that College administrators had seen the page, yet Rev. Ivan Head said not two days ago that he had never heard about it until the Herald broke the story. So the page, or a copy of it, exists in the here and now, or was Rev. Head lying?
In any case, it still sounds like a couple of stupid kids trying to prove their bravado in a very dominant patriarchy. However, if the boys' boasts that they made on this page could be verified or some definite links made, then yes, that's a story.
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The page did exist for a few months. It was removed by Facebook after complaint(s). Members of this page boasted of their exploits and not taking 'no' as an acceptable response from women.
More rapes allegedly occurred. Allegedly?
The term 'allegedly' is used as a legal means of protecting the writer from legal action for defamation, liable and other civil actions. As with most of these cases the assaulted (women) decide not to proceed with Police/court because the pusuit of justice can be as traumatic as the original crime.
It doesn't mean it never occured, just that no conviction was recorded or no guilty plea made in court or no charges were laid.
Ruth has broken a sensational story with absolutely NO solid evidence!
You know this how? I think you lack the evidence to make such an assertion.
We can't even see this alleged Facebook page and decide for ourselves!It was removed as violating the Terms Of Service of ( ... )
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For something to be considered 'news worthy' and to be reported on there has to be a court case or a police report? No smoking gun = it never happened?
Ruth doesn't even quote the page.
Why quote something that is no longer there to be verified?
I have seen the facebook page in question. The University administrators and the University College administrators have seen the page. Current and former students are identified. What has either administration done about this prior to it becoming public?
Nothing.
Since it became public?
Consulted respective lawyers.
And those current students identified?
Nothing.
As for the Top 5 law firms - think of the alumni that would come out of pauls and you would have your answer.
Every university college has alumni within the legal fraternity...but on speed dial?
...it was that the Sydney Uni college society (not just pauls) encourages or condones that, which in my ( ... )
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You've obviously been on top of this or close to the action, may I ask how you are connected?
If you've seen the page, then Ruth should have seen the page - why could she not quote it? It's been archived, why can't these archives be printed (at least in part?). That is what I don't understand.
You state that College administrators had seen the page, yet Rev. Ivan Head said not two days ago that he had never heard about it until the Herald broke the story. So the page, or a copy of it, exists in the here and now, or was Rev. Head lying?
In any case, it still sounds like a couple of stupid kids trying to prove their bravado in a very dominant patriarchy. However, if the boys' boasts that they made on this page could be verified or some definite links made, then yes, that's a story.
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