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VLI: Lesson 1: Pronunciation (Salasharaya)

Sep 17, 2009 00:20

Okay, I'll be starting weekly lesson posts in this community now, as discussed in this poll. You can find all of the lessons here: Vulcan Language Institute, all credit goes to the original creators, etc ( Read more... )

weekly lesson

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planetari September 17 2009, 12:21:07 UTC

I'm glad that you have started posting these :) I hope the community becomes more active.

I have some questions about pronunciation. First, the "ah" sound. I usually try to pronounce it as the æ sounds but sometimes it take a couple of attempts, as it comes out sounding like an "eh". I'm curious to know how other people pronounce it, as there is an alternative pronunciation (unfortunately the subtleties that differentiate hot from caught escape me). I also appreciate tips on how to pronounce this sound.

Another thing, in the lesson they don't point out any differences between GV "r" and FSE "r", but Saavik uses a slightly rolled "r" in Wrath , but I'm interested in knowing other people's opinions.

daphnie_1 September 17 2009, 13:51:43 UTC

FWIW: I pronounce the "ah" sound like i'm saying "Awe" because that's how i'd say the "au" sound in caught xD

I think alot of it has to do with accent and all that sorta stuff though. I'm finding the pronunciation really difficult.

planetari September 17 2009, 14:36:20 UTC

Then how do you pronounce the "oh" sound when it is in the beginning/interior of a word?

I know, I have to rely on Forvo.com to get the classroom American English pronunciation of certain words :p

daphnie_1 September 17 2009, 14:42:59 UTC

I pronounce both the same xD Which I know I'm not meant to but I'm having a big problem trying to distinguish between the sounds.

I guess we're the same on that count.

Perhaps they sound different in American :P

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planetari September 18 2009, 00:08:57 UTC

I just thought of another thing. What is the difference between e and eh, exactly?

kiwiken October 3 2009, 20:30:23 UTC

I'm having problems with the pronounciation of ah, ih, oh, eh and uh, because to my german eyes, this letter combination seems to suggest that I'm supposed to pronounce that vowel long. Actually, I get the impression that they're supposed to be pronounced a lot shorter than their counterpart without the -h ( ... )

kiwiken October 5 2009, 19:27:53 UTC

I just notived that Spock's name is spelled either "Spahkh" or "Spohkh" on the VLI site. At first I thought that the first variant might be a hint that the "ah" is supposed to be pronounced like it is in his name (and consequently decided that I don't want to pronounce it like in "cat" after all, because then I might have to call him something that sounds a lot like "Speck").
But then I noticed the second variant, and now I'm not sure... it could very well be a typo, though. What do you think?

Furthermore, the "kh"-sound in the end of both spellings really surprises me.

kiwiken October 10 2009, 10:59:26 UTC

Another question, does anyone know how to get a distinct difference in the pronounciation of "v" and "f" when in the end of a word or syllable? If I try, it tends to sound the same.
And then there's words like for example "khav-kur" (brown) and "khaf-kur" (blood green), where it would make a real difference.