055 [Voice, Action]

Jul 01, 2011 12:44

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[Voice] semper_cogitans July 1 2011, 20:48:05 UTC
[Adell was kind enough to support Robert when Vivi was sent home. Robert feels that he should at least try to do the same.]

... I... I am sorry. It is... a-always difficult when a friend is s-sent home.

[He knows on some level it's selfish - that he wants these people to stay in captivity with him - but... but he doesn't want to forget. Doesn't want them to forget.]

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[Voice] vulcanblazer July 1 2011, 21:42:26 UTC
Yeah, it is. ...I'll be fine, though. Just... needed a little time.

[He's just so tired of this crap.]

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[Voice] semper_cogitans July 1 2011, 22:14:34 UTC
[Robert can't blame him, honestly. From what he saw of Luka, she was an intelligent and polite individual, and he'd really wanted to help her.]

... Is Luka Megurine's home at least... a good one?

[So many people would be going back to some violent place. It didn't seem like she deserved that.]

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[Voice] vulcanblazer July 1 2011, 22:21:45 UTC
...Depends if you define most people seeing her as little more than a machine "good" or not.

I get the impression it's not a world filled with a lot of trouble, though.

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[Voice] semper_cogitans July 2 2011, 03:36:03 UTC
... I would not. [Robert's voice is... well, dull, to say the least, at that. Non-human sapients deserve rights, in his mind.]

What sort of world could even have such a view...?

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[Voice] vulcanblazer July 2 2011, 03:38:05 UTC
More than a few, I think. Any worlds where they don't necessarily have true artificial intelligence, for one.

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[Voice] semper_cogitans July 3 2011, 03:50:58 UTC
But that necessitates treating non-organic sapients as less than sapient? [His tone is incredulous.] That seems preposterous...

... But I have heard similar atrocities from other worlds, so I suppose it is not... e-entirely impossible.

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[Voice] vulcanblazer July 3 2011, 04:23:37 UTC
Not to say I condone treating androids as less than human, but...

It's not preposterous if you consider worlds which don't have access to that kind of technology. Why would they even think of it in the first place? And even if they do, there's the question of whether or not the AI they're using is advanced enough to be humanlike, and how new the technology is.

It makes sense that people might have trouble adapting to it, or simply just don't understand. That's where a lot of it comes from.

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[Voice] semper_cogitans July 3 2011, 04:31:52 UTC
[... Adell raises good points. Points that Robert hadn't really considered in the initial rush to wave the thought off as something only a barbarian would think.]

... Well. Duly acknowledged.

... It just seems... [He tries to search for a term that works.] ... Unfair, to think that way. But... but, I have had my own difficulties with this place, and things within it.

[He's... still a xenophobe, but a lot less of one. And he's getting better.]

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[Voice] vulcanblazer July 3 2011, 04:43:27 UTC
It can be, once you have an understanding of it.

...It took me a long time to really understand what Luka being an android meant. I accepted her as a person, but... at the same time, I made the mistake for a long time of thinking of her as human, rather than an android.

Because there is still a significant difference.

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[Voice] semper_cogitans July 3 2011, 05:45:59 UTC
[These are things that Robert... sort of knows by default, in a sense. It's still weird, to know that other people don't.]

There is - though in the end, it does not decide value, or personhood. But... yes, there is certainly a d-difference... and when I spoke to her, it s-seemed as though she was adamant on delineating that difference.

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[Voice] vulcanblazer July 3 2011, 14:45:45 UTC
Now, that I agree with you on absolutely. After I came to understand the difference between android and human somewhat, I still thought of her as a person.

It's pretty important to understand the difference. Even though she's sentient and humanlike, she still thinks differently than we do, and processes emotions in a different way.

[And that's what made it so hard to get through to her, trying to compensate for that...]

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[Voice] semper_cogitans July 3 2011, 23:39:43 UTC
Ah, well... I myself am an... a-astrobiologist. I often spend time studying non-human sapients... s-so, so I am strongly aware of them.

... Though, if I am... honest, I was not often engaged in the cultural studies side of things. [And he's vaguely beginning to understand why. Even for a Terran, he's fairly xenophobic - and it took him several discussions in Luceti to realize this.]

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