While I wasn't as disappointed as you (I think only because even though I really liked the first movie, I never got into the fandom), I felt really let down by this movie. My husband and I saw it yesterday and spent dinner talking about why it didn't work. We were both frustrated that they had so many good ideas and then didn't really develop them. I was most annoyed that they didn't really get into the Vanko/Father Tony/Father story. I think one of the reasons the first movie's ending was so engaging, was that we knew how hurt and conflicted Tony had to be fighting the man who had been a father figure for so many years. There was none of that drama in this movie because they didn't bother to develop the relationship between Vanko and Tony - their parallel stories, how Tony's father had destroyed Vanko's father and the guilt that Tony could have felt over this could have added so much to the final battle.
I could go on and on, but I think I should shut up now.
We were both frustrated that they had so many good ideas and then didn't really develop them.
YES. Exactly this. You would think a franchise would be excited to have so many ideas so they could, you know, make a lot of movies? Why were they compelled to squish everything into this one? There isn't time to tell eight stories, and if you try, you just end up telling none of them. Argh!
I think one of the reasons the first movie's ending was so engaging, was that we knew how hurt and conflicted Tony had to be fighting the man who had been a father figure for so many years. There was none of that drama in this movie because they didn't bother to develop the relationship between Vanko and Tony - their parallel stories, how Tony's father had destroyed Vanko's father and the guilt that Tony could have felt over this could have added so much to the final battle.Agreed! We kind of knew why Vanko had it in for Tony, but the first time they fought, Tony was surprised because he had NO IDEA who he was; and the second time they fought, Tony was
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While I wasn't as disappointed as you (I think only because even though I really liked the first movie, I never got into the fandom), I felt really let down by this movie. My husband and I saw it yesterday and spent dinner talking about why it didn't work. We were both frustrated that they had so many good ideas and then didn't really develop them. I was most annoyed that they didn't really get into the Vanko/Father Tony/Father story. I think one of the reasons the first movie's ending was so engaging, was that we knew how hurt and conflicted Tony had to be fighting the man who had been a father figure for so many years. There was none of that drama in this movie because they didn't bother to develop the relationship between Vanko and Tony - their parallel stories, how Tony's father had destroyed Vanko's father and the guilt that Tony could have felt over this could have added so much to the final battle.
I could go on and on, but I think I should shut up now.
Thanks for the brilliant rant!
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YES. Exactly this. You would think a franchise would be excited to have so many ideas so they could, you know, make a lot of movies? Why were they compelled to squish everything into this one? There isn't time to tell eight stories, and if you try, you just end up telling none of them. Argh!
I think one of the reasons the first movie's ending was so engaging, was that we knew how hurt and conflicted Tony had to be fighting the man who had been a father figure for so many years. There was none of that drama in this movie because they didn't bother to develop the relationship between Vanko and Tony - their parallel stories, how Tony's father had destroyed Vanko's father and the guilt that Tony could have felt over this could have added so much to the final battle.Agreed! We kind of knew why Vanko had it in for Tony, but the first time they fought, Tony was surprised because he had NO IDEA who he was; and the second time they fought, Tony was ( ... )
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