Frivolous Lawsuits? I Think NotblueeyedguyFebruary 2 2006, 08:23:06 UTC
Time to get a lawyer!
I've been reading this John Grisham book called "The King of Torts." There's this lawyer and he's suing this huge pharmaceutical company on behalf of clients who have developed tumors due to their use of one of the company's drugs.
True, hearing loss isn't a tumor and you don't have to listen to your MP3 player at 75% of maximum volume, but didn't the tobacco companies have to pay out a whole lot of money to people who died because they chose to smoke cigarettes?
My point: Even though something is bad for someone's health, you can't expect them not to do it unless there is a clear warning label somewhere on the product they are using that warns them of the dangers of using (or in this case, misusing) the product.
Re: Frivolous Lawsuits? I Think Notwanderius_thraxFebruary 2 2006, 13:33:11 UTC
even after the lawsuits, cigarettes still don't have warning labels on them though. only the package does. and the ipod manual does warn against using the device at high volumes.
also, the warning label on the pack of cigarettes, which has been on cigarette packages since the 1960s or so, didn't keep the tobacco companies from getting sued... a lot of their trouble was from hiding the results of additional research about the physically addictive nature of their product, their attempts to enhance it's addictiveness, bla bla bla... and lying about it. i don't think apple or any other manufacturer of sound reproducing equipment has been trying to hide anything....
Re: Frivolous Lawsuits? I Think NotblueeyedguyFebruary 2 2006, 20:32:53 UTC
There's a strong argument to be made for the physically addictive nature of listening to music at high volumes as well. For me, listening to Van Halen's "Jump" at high volumes results in extreme feelings of inner joy (I imagine there must be some increased levels of seratonin or some other feel-good hormone involved).
I think if maybe all these good bands stopped making all this highly addictive music, perhaps people wouldn't be so inclined to listen to their MP3 players at high volume levels that damage their ears. Maybe it's not Apple's fault at all. Maybe the lawsuits should be directed at the bands who make the music instead? Fans could probably drive bands like Nada Surf and Death Cab for Cutie right into bankruptcy.
OMG, yet another senseless lawsuit because common sense in this country has long since been thrown out the window. Suing fast food companies for having hot coffee or for making you fat. Of course, the best one of all time is the burglar suing the homeowner when he was injured while doing his dirty deed. Whatever. :oP
I'm gonna sue McDonald's for making their coffee too hot and their Big Mac's too fatty because now I'm 450 lbs with heart problems with morbid obesity!
I think this guy tried sueing Apple in France, then Apple made a dB limit of 100 wher ein the US, we don't have that. I think in Europe they have dB limits on electronic hearing equipment (headphones, speakers etc) but I'm not too sure on that.
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Children don't have hearing loss warnings either!
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I've been reading this John Grisham book called "The King of Torts." There's this lawyer and he's suing this huge pharmaceutical company on behalf of clients who have developed tumors due to their use of one of the company's drugs.
True, hearing loss isn't a tumor and you don't have to listen to your MP3 player at 75% of maximum volume, but didn't the tobacco companies have to pay out a whole lot of money to people who died because they chose to smoke cigarettes?
My point: Even though something is bad for someone's health, you can't expect them not to do it unless there is a clear warning label somewhere on the product they are using that warns them of the dangers of using (or in this case, misusing) the product.
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also, the warning label on the pack of cigarettes, which has been on cigarette packages since the 1960s or so, didn't keep the tobacco companies from getting sued... a lot of their trouble was from hiding the results of additional research about the physically addictive nature of their product, their attempts to enhance it's addictiveness, bla bla bla... and lying about it. i don't think apple or any other manufacturer of sound reproducing equipment has been trying to hide anything....
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I think if maybe all these good bands stopped making all this highly addictive music, perhaps people wouldn't be so inclined to listen to their MP3 players at high volume levels that damage their ears. Maybe it's not Apple's fault at all. Maybe the lawsuits should be directed at the bands who make the music instead? Fans could probably drive bands like Nada Surf and Death Cab for Cutie right into bankruptcy.
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I think this guy tried sueing Apple in France, then Apple made a dB limit of 100 wher ein the US, we don't have that. I think in Europe they have dB limits on electronic hearing equipment (headphones, speakers etc) but I'm not too sure on that.
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