lol...what a terrible...blog? Yes those were terrible games and all though his hindsight is pretty damn good, i doubt he can actually see where games are going. Okami, hands down, disproves his "games can't be art" theory right off. That game is beautiful and having spent so much time in Japan, he especially should understand how beauty can be seen in video games. If I am right, Miyamoto said before the Wii was released (and i will answer your first question shortly) that graphical prowess really has nothing on the art developed in video games, and i think that is completely true. Would i take a game that looks like zelda or okami over Gears? Yes. I love the looks of both of those games and i think they are both more fun (Gears got old for me quick). With Okami, it can be seen that it isn't in the hardware, but in fact in the company that develops the game. I think that Okami looks aesthetically more pleasing than most 360 games and it does look better than some ps3 games on the market now (and that is simply because developers for
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I think we are missing a crucial element to the guy's argument. It's clear that he believes games can be "artistic." That is, emulating visual art from other mediums (painting, etc). That's not an issue. I think what he's wondering is if games, as a medium, have the capacity to be in themselves 'works of art,' or if because they are centered around entertainment they are inherently flawed, and will never achieve that status
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i understand his argument, but you have to understand that art should not only please the senses but bring a sense of enjoyment. Art can span farther than just the eye candy. Music is enjoyable (classical that is) to me because of...well a shit ton of different reasons. And to some, sculpting, painting, or even viewing these works of art bring the pleasure. I think that they enjoyment of the 'art' within video gaming pushes far beyond that of just "wow...she looks just like real life" or "freaking beautiful scenery" and reaches the fun factor as well
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I admit, I play games for gameplay. I'm not a visual kind of guy. But I'll just say this. Story lines that come out of square-enix (FF7, FF10, FF6 and ESPECIALLY Xenogears) are just as art as any book. Some enviroments from different games have made me stop and look more than some of the paintings I saw at the louvre. I will save a game sometimes before a good cutscene just so I can watch it over and over again. Lunar soundtrack and many songs from the final fantasy series are extremely good music and songs that I will listen to above a lot of what others consider art
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Brawl could be the game for Wii. It won't involve motoin sensing, which is good in the long run for a game with a projected tournament life of....very long.
The Wii COULD be the number one system in 5 years. But as it stands right now, I'm not thinking so.
I think that the *gasp* 360 will take this gen by a very low margin. PS3 will get big when FFXIII comes out cuz of all the fanboys, pushing sales to about 5 times what they are now (which still won't catch the 360) and the Wii has some big games coming out soon, but by no means will this catch the user base of halo 3 let alone the others who got the system for the sports games.
I think it's: 360, Wii close behind, then PS3 about 2,000,000 systems down.
things like this are the reason i'm glad i kind of left gaming and never really moved past the 32-bit era. were people arguing about things like this ten years ago? no fucking way. would i have had a heated argument with my friend down the street about how my super nintendo was way better than his playstation? no fucking way. he'd come over one day and we'd play Joe and Mac or Donkey Kong Country 2 and then I'd go over to his house the next day and we'd play Jet Moto 2. or i'd watch him play Tomb Raider and get all excited when he'd finally jump across some platform that took like two hours of not quite jumping right and falling into a pit before getting it just right and moving on to the next stupid platform that would take two hours.
my problem with the gaming industry is that our generation has grown up with it. does anyone really remember how shitty like 75% of the games they regularly played on nes were? because i've come back to a lot of those games i was so into when i was little and they were absolutely terrible, but it would
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I think you capture the "magic has left" portion of the feature article perfectly at the begining of your post. But no magic dosn't mean we'll stop playing video games. We'll just keep looking until something else catches us. Something like 'cave story.'
I like your idea our growing up with video games. It's an important point, becuase it means that just as the generation before us was rasied watching movies and now creates forward thinking, interesting films, people like us could be creating games as art in twenty years. I wouldn't do it, but I could see SOMEONE doing it.
Maybe the Wii is the first step in this. Maybe by making games more accessable, the Wii will de-marginalize games and gamers. I'm PRETTY SURE this is what I want, but it's up for debate. Maybe I like being part of a small, elite gaming culture.
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The Wii COULD be the number one system in 5 years. But as it stands right now, I'm not thinking so.
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I think it's: 360, Wii close behind, then PS3 about 2,000,000 systems down.
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my problem with the gaming industry is that our generation has grown up with it. does anyone really remember how shitty like 75% of the games they regularly played on nes were? because i've come back to a lot of those games i was so into when i was little and they were absolutely terrible, but it would ( ... )
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I like your idea our growing up with video games. It's an important point, becuase it means that just as the generation before us was rasied watching movies and now creates forward thinking, interesting films, people like us could be creating games as art in twenty years. I wouldn't do it, but I could see SOMEONE doing it.
Maybe the Wii is the first step in this. Maybe by making games more accessable, the Wii will de-marginalize games and gamers. I'm PRETTY SURE this is what I want, but it's up for debate. Maybe I like being part of a small, elite gaming culture.
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