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final final count

Aug 17, 2011 09:15

This won't be funny to anyone else, but: we're done shopping.

spacealien_vamp: 198 books, 20 doujinshi, 11 DVDs

wednesday_10_00: 196 books, 80(!) doujinshi, 12 special booklets, 6 DVDs, 5 CDs

mangaroo: 164 books, 36 doujinshi, 4 special booklets, 1 DVD, 2 CDs

sara_tanaquil: (updated count due to last-minute shopping day of departure) 157 books, 11 doujinshi (not counting what we got her at ( Read more... )

japan shopping orgy '11

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Re: PS Yay! I win! mangaroo August 17 2011, 17:46:01 UTC

I'm still vexed about Doublemints because I like the unrelated extra story in the volume. (I completely understand if you find the scenario in the extra story as repellant as Doublemints proper, but I see a lot of similarities to Swiss Cheese in the emotional content and the story's structure.) However, I hate the rest of the book so much I can't bear to own it because I might accidentally look at the title story and go blind.

And YAYYAYYAY for reading Swiss Cheese. How far along are you? Do you have a favorite chapter? Do you want to hug Kusakabe from joy and Hara-sen from compassion? (Did you know Sajou was voted favorite uke in KBLY 2011?) Have I mentioned I love this manga?

Re: PS Yay! I win! collarnojutsu August 17 2011, 18:40:31 UTC

(Did you know Sajou was voted favorite uke in KBLY 2011?)

One one hand, I am not surprised given how popular this series is on that list, but on the other, it's not like there aren't other ukes like him. It feels extreme. (Not that I didn't like him, or anything, though?) hrm.

Re: PS Yay! I win! mangaroo August 21 2011, 16:18:20 UTC

Sorry for taking so long to reply to this, but today was the first time I had enough focus to attempt translation without kissy pictures to guide me. Each "best of" winner gets a little blurb from a different source (I assume fandom blogs and the like), and Sajou's is "Megane!! Majime!!! Bukiyou!!!! Soshite bijin ~~ [heart] パーフェクツ、パーフェクツ desu ( ... )

Re: PS Yay! I win! wednesday_10_00 August 22 2011, 00:30:59 UTC

re: パーフェクツ - that's a callback to what Kusakabe says to Sajou in the first chapter, when he's teaching him the song, right? I remember we were talking about it in the hotel room. My suggestion was that it was Italian, but no idea, really.

Re: PS Yay! I win! collarnojutsu August 22 2011, 14:36:11 UTC

Thanks for the translation, as it is always interesting to hear what fangirls are saying, and it sort of answered my question. (Maybe my style of pondering isn't clear -- it wasn't at all that I think uniqueness is what characters are judged on, or even that unique characters should win, it was that in a sea of ukes like him, why was *he* the favorite? What about *his* particular qualities swayed him above the other serious, awkward boys who wear glasses? I guess the answer is just nothing really other than he just did sway them. :P)

Re: PS Yay! I win! wednesday_10_00 August 22 2011, 14:51:04 UTC

Setting aside whether Sajou is better than other serious-type-ukes or not, keep in mind that this is only for manga published in one year, so it's not THAT big of a sea, maybe?

Re: PS Yay! I win! collarnojutsu August 22 2011, 14:52:30 UTC

Could be! I would obviously have no idea, which is why I was curious.

Re: PS Yay! I win! mangaroo August 22 2011, 15:04:20 UTC

You are impugning Sajou's awesomeness. I challenge you to a duel, madame. *faceslap* *gauntlet throwing* *fan thwap*

Based on Manga-oh's new releases list, subtracting anthologies, we get between 65-70 single-author BL tankoubon per month. I'm just going to call it 66 to account for series titles featuring only one couple that might have more than one volume released in a year (though most of my series seem to be spaced 12+ months apart). Sajou beat at least 791 other ukes with his seriously awkward spectacled beauty.

Oh, dang. I have to go to work now. WANT VACATION ALWAYS.

Re: PS Yay! I win! wednesday_10_00 August 22 2011, 16:51:21 UTC

Sajou beat at least 791 other ukes with his seriously awkward spectacled beauty.

But the point was how many other of that specific type of uke there are, right? So you would have to go through the 791(ish) volumes of manga released in that year (10/09-10/10 or whatever) and figure out how many serious, glasses-wearing ukes there were. And...I honestly have no idea how to go about doing that.

(I also feel I should point out that given the number of short story collections out there, even if we're just going by total number of ukes, there are probably a lot more than 791 ukes in one year.)

Re: PS Yay! I win! mangaroo August 22 2011, 17:20:54 UTC

I don't think his specific type is the point at all. Sajou is the best uke, not just the best serious, awkward, glasses-wearing, beautiful person uke. (In fact, he is only #3 on the best megane poll, right? I meant to check if the other two were semes, but I don't have my KBLY at work.) The poll just validates his breathtaking embodiment of non-unique uke qualities.

I know KBLY's only been around 4 years (how awesome that you picked it up in its first year), but do you recall seeing any winners from short stories in any of the polls? In other words, if only serialized stories produce viable contenders, Sajou probably faced significantly less than 791 rivals. But he's still パーフェクツ, darnit!

You didn't post best uke and seme for the past three years, did you? GAH! Now I'm all curious and wish I had bought that used copy of the 2010 KBLY.

Re: PS Yay! I win! wednesday_10_00 August 22 2011, 17:30:03 UTC

Sorry, I didn't meant to be confusing. That's the point of the poll, yes. But cnj's comment was "in a sea of ukes like him, why was *he* the favorite? What about *his* particular qualities swayed him above the other serious, awkward boys who wear glasses?" So the number of all ukes doesn't really answer that question.

do you recall seeing any winners from short stories in any of the polls?

I am pretty sure there have been, because I remember it specifically saying "xxx story from xxx manga" for short story winners.

But he's still パーフェクツ, darnit!

I am definitely not arguing on this point!

You didn't post best uke and seme for the past three years, did you?

I didn't, but I could.

Re: PS Yay! I win! mangaroo August 22 2011, 19:35:00 UTC

Oy, re-reading the thread, it's very clear that you're responding to cnj's comment. I agree that the sea of megane-wearing, serious, awkward, beautiful ukes in a given year is probably not that vast (I'm randomly guessing 53), but now you have to post the #1 ukes from the preceding three years, because I am assuming the same type doesn't win every year. (Even though it is my moe and therefore should.)

To wrap up: most BL characters can be assigned a type, but it's possible to be a type and still be especially appealing (more than the sum of his parts). Not that I want to pretend to speak authoritatively on KBLY matters, since I still don't know WHO they're polling.

Also, I'm delighted to know that short stories have produced winners. There's not enough appreciation for short story BL.

Re: PS Yay! I win! wednesday_10_00 August 22 2011, 23:17:47 UTC

now you have to post the #1 ukes from the preceding three years

This takes less thinking than other things I should be doing, so: OK!

re: who they're polling - I just checked, and: they ask 40 bookstore employees, reviewers, and editor about their top 10 manga, which are assigned points (#1 = 10 points, #2 = 9 points, etc), and also ask Tonari no 801-chan subscribers their top (one) manga for the year, for which each vote gets one point.

(Oh my gosh, Gokujou no Koibito made the list in 2008?? Was that a slow year?)

PS wednesday_10_00 August 23 2011, 14:13:35 UTC

I guess I lied about the short story thing. I must be remembering winners from other categories or something (megane or S or whatever other categories they have). Some of the characters are from stories that don't take up whole volumes, but most of them are from series.

Re: PS Yay! I win! sara_tanaquil August 17 2011, 20:25:29 UTC

Every chapter is more favorite than the last. I just read the one in Swiss Cheese 2 where Kusakabe meets Sajou's mother. There might have been squeeing. (I laughed so hard when she did the "talk trash about your family to be polite" thing, and Kusakabe's all "Oh, but I like those things about him!" And Sajou is just /facepalm, literally.)

The art weirds me out, but I could see how it might grow on me as I re-read; it suits the story, somehow. (But some of the images of Kusakabe freaking out remind me bizarrely of Hyperbole and a Half. Sample image chosen almost purely at random)

Hara-sen! (Seku-hara! Ero-seku!) So inappropriate on the surface, such a gentleman underneath. I really hope his boyfriend in the side story treats him well, he deserves it.

PS What are you doing awake at this hour?

Re: PS Yay! I win! mangaroo August 17 2011, 23:00:06 UTC

The ladies may have laughed out loud at your Kusakabe = Hyperbole and a Half.

What are you doing awake at this hour?

Post-packing adrenaline combined with anxiety about how I'm going to eat today with no money. Can I make it 'til the first meal service on my flight?

Also, if you're not going to make your own Swiss Cheese top-level post, cnj and I are talking about it over here.

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