→ INTROSPECTION

Feb 19, 2011 17:21

Genta I was just checking up on our post. XXD
STOP BEING JEALOUS
Me BUT
DSFJHGKFHDJ
8(
Genta JUST BECAUSE I'M AN ADORABLE FLUFFY PUPPY AND APPARENTLY STILL CAPABLE OF GIVING HIM SOUND ADVICE.
Me THAT'S OUR BED YOU ARE CHEWING BONES ON
Genta Wan wan :E
Me one dog or another
Genta A feline who gets along with dogs! Who knew?
Me a feline who loves animals
which i suppose is also adorable
and ryuunosuke isn't mainly upset with takeru. he's also pretty confused.
because doing stuff like this without asking him kind of blurs the lines of what takeru does as a boyfriend and as a lord, while ryuunosuke has been working hard to figure them out so he can try to steer away from vassalhood.
he does think acting this way is more second nature for takeru than he would admit :/
also sleeping alone sucks.
Genta A-Awww
Me so mostly he is just. 50% confused, 30% lonely and 20% jealous.
because jealousy is not a huge thing for him :< he likes when people like each other and get all up in their dere
Genta Poor ham. IGNORING VASSALHOOD IS HARD?
Me ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR LORD IS DOING
it is not even a big deal that genta is staying over, even if it kills their privacy for a couple of days
Sent at 4:53 PM on Saturday
Me but he just decided so himself and forced ryuunosuke into something he would have probably been cool with, but. it makes it kind of look like it's easy for Takeru to divest of him.
which, let's face it. it is! he has a real puppy, he loves animals. all is well.
that is how ryuunosuke feels.
... so much tl;dr.
Genta IT'S OKAY. I like this kind of talk.
Me oh good. :O
so this is why he is still nice to genta. if he were jealous, he would probably be his usual hamcranky self.
... plus, ryuunosuke liek puppy too.
Genta Wan. :E
Me wannnnn
Genta You two keep reinforcing Genta's belief that you two fail at communicating.
sob
Me Ryuunosuke is super at the talking. He just doesn't give himself enough credit to point out when he feels Takeru did something wrong, so he would rather shut himself out and think and mull it over until he twists it all into thinking how and why it is his own fault.
Which is easier for him!
That's why he's always apologizing.
Genta .... So much weight on himself.
Me He doesn't like to blame Tono for anything. Unless Tono harms himself doing something.
Me Also, because Ryuunosuke thinks he is easily dispensed of, he doesn't really press the matter of PDA right now.
or. ..not even P! they're in their own damn room.
Genta What's the matter with DA?
Me Well. For one, it's a bit awkward to make out with your lover's best friend nearby. It's a bit different from public, like... more concentrated attention? Harder to ignore. So Ryuunosuke would normally stick to chaste and brief, but right now Takeru isn't indicating any interest. Like, hmm... when they fight enough to spend the night apart, Takeru used to tell him he can't sleep without him. Which is pretty adorable!
But right now Ryuunosuke is obviously only somewhat nearby, which makes him wonder exactly how much of a necessity he really is.
I mean, a puppy obviously does the job too.
Me But then this thought leads him to believe that it doesn't have to be him, so he is unwilling to bring it up. They JUST had that discussion in their last fight!
He doesn't really want to believe it. That is the root of the confusion.
my god, this boy needs to catch a break.
Genta ...... The boy gives himself so little credit. Jesus christ.
Me It's hilarious, because most people he makes friends with love how humble he is.
Socute, Ryuunosuke. Socute.
Genta Genta's starting to see it as a flaw though thanks to all the goddamn fights
Me Ryuunosuke is, too. He let it show a bit in his conversation with Rui, that he's starting to think the demure behavior and excellent manners is pretty much the only thing he knows how to do, but that when it comes down to it, they're not worth anything.
Genta A-Awww
Me http://wetfortono.livejournal.com/12525.html?thread=1405165#t1405165 here.
Genta Poor ham. :<
Me Someone needs to smack some sense into him before he forgets he's a person.
Genta I SAID I WOULD TALK TO YOU AGAIN, HAM
Me hau
Genta He really believes Takeru and Ryuunosuke could make it work if they could just truly act that they're both on equal ground.
i.e. A person, not vassal or a lord.

Me there's sort of a catch, though
Me because ryuunosuke... doesn't mind acting as a vassal. in a way, that is his comfort zone. and in yet another way, that is also what has been expected of him all his life. part of him just hopes that the whole scandal about their relationship could be lessened a bit if only he upheld etiquette.
Genta ... Yeah, that's not gonna happen.
Having that kind of relationship kills the point of holding that kind of etiquette.
Me I know. That's why he sadfaces a lot whenever Takeru scolds him for not being himself. There's guilt because he can't please the clan, and there's guilt because he can't please Takeru.
Genta A-Awww
Genta Does Ryuunosuke have any idea what he's going to do when it comes to well... getting an heir?
Me ... He doesn't really want to think about it too hard. I mean, there is Mako, but he's not even sure that she will remember their relationship, nor does he cut himself enough credit to expect her to fall in love with him again. Before she left they had only just started going out, too, so it seems kind of rude to start worrying about babbyforming already.
And also, in his mind Takeru has dibs on her anyway, and having the babies of two different men? Is not really a scandal he wants to involve her in
Genta ... Yeah, that's a whole other can of worms.
Me Basically, when he thinks about their future and all the difficulties he will inevitably add, he just wishes he had never confessed to neither. He really wants them to have it easier being with each other. He spent a bit of time trying to convince Takeru to choose her over himself, too, but he got pretty pissed at Ryuunosuke for it.
Genta A-Awww. :<
Me They only had one official date as all three of them, but when they did, Ryuunosuke dallied around on the sidelines a lot and tried to give them space to themselves.
Genta He's really not allowing himself to be happy.
Me He's happy just watching them, too, in a way. What he really isn't doing is claim anything for himself.
I mean, it does make him sad, but if it were for the sake of not adding any more trouble, he would step back from the whole thing. And he feels incredibly guilty for thinking that way.
Genta "I want my beloved to be happy"?
Me EVEN IF IT IS WITHOUT ME he is such a selfless idiot it is ridiculous.
always doing things the dramatic way.
Genta sob

Me 8( Ryuunosuke was just not born to be a rebel
Genta It takes some really extrordinary circumstances for that to happen
Me It does! In a way, he has contemplated exactly how much right to decide about his own love life he has, and the only conclusion he came to was some kind of blackmail. You can imagine how awful he felt.
Genta ... Blackmail? Really?
Me Yeah. Because, even if he is not the Lord and does not have as much freedom of decision, for the Ikenami clan he remains the best option as Shinkenblue. No siblings to speak of, former Shinkenblue is dead, he is rather excellent in and of himself, and due to this probably also blessed with the genes to go with it. These are all factors that made him the blue ranger of this generation, even though he is not former Shinkenblue's son, since Ryuuzaburou is obviously alive and kicking. So, in just that way, the Ikenami clan depends on Ryuunosuke, too.
Genta Ahhhh.
Actually, I've been assuming Ryuuzaburou was the former ShinkenBlue.
Me I'm not really sure on that, either. First the official version was that all former Shinkengers died when Kaoru's Dad did-- but then Mako's Mom turned up, albeit very weakened. So did Chiaki's Dad, although we do not have confidence on whether he was the former Shinkengreen, either.
stupid confusing clan business.
Genta I'm pretty sure Chiaki's dad is the former ShinkenGreen because of how he managed to clean out those Nanashi.
Me Hmmm.
Genta What we can say for sure is that th 17th generation got mauled really badly. Mako's mom is paralyzed. The ShinkenBlue had THREE FLAMING ARROWS TO THE CHEST, ShinkenYellow and ShinkenGreen were stabbed and basically got off with relatively light injuries.
Me yeah.
So, even given the possibility that Ryuuzaburou is Shinkenblue, Ryuunosuke still has the benefit of being young-- if his dad were still fit to fight as a ranger, there would have been no pressing need to train another one.
Genta Oh definitely.
Me Anyway, Ryuunosuke is aware of all these things, but he is not the type of person who would play the cards to his advantage. However, this is not only about himself!
Genta Mmhm.
Me It's safe to assume he has never really defied his parents, either, filial piety being part of bushido, and having blatant parents complex.
Genta Actually, assuming his dad was the former ShinkenBlue, there would be more pressure on Ryuunosuke to keep his duty because Ryuuzaburo was lucky to be even alive despite everything.
Yeah, and that too.
Me Well, it's the pressure everyone has had to deal with. Ryuunosuke's personality only ensured he take it more seriously than anyone else, barring the Shibas, and ... barring Genta, whose family background is a bit different.
Me Plus kabuki! His dad alone is not just a father figure but a mentor and superior. That makes them more distant, and I'm sure a lot of the time Ryuunosuke worries if his parents have the emotional attachment to care about his romantic feelings at all.
Genta Aww
Me It doesn't seem like a bad family background for him to come from, just a bit impersonal.
Genta Yeah, pretty much.
Me This also explains why he assumes so much responsibility. He wasn't spoiled at all, he grew up being taught that punishment is a consequence of misstepping.
To the point where he needs it to forgive himself. 8/a
Genta R-Ryuunosuke...
Me honestly! the only one who cared if he fountain'd himself was Ryuunosuke himself.
Genta ... Yeah, pretty much
Me So it seems like he blows these things out of proportion, but where he comes from they are adequate.
Genta As far as he's concerned
Me Take the Mako episode too. He told her to hit him for being unmanly!
Genta and Mako just went "wtf"
Me totally punched her in the dere with that, too
Genta Hahaha
Me what a poor guy.
XD
... lmao this reminds me of how aiba always calls him a poor sap in interviews, too.
Genta THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER WAY TO GET AROUND IT. Hahaha
Me o-oh Ryuunosuke. why so screwed up?
Genta There there
Me it's really old-fashioned.
not necessarily bad, but it obviously gets in the way.
Genta Yep
It's funny. Genta's background is a massive contrast against everybody else's.
Genta Because he quite literially volunteered to get into this. Filal piety just... didn't register for him. He joined by his own free will and wanted to help Takeru that badly.
Me Ryuunosuke didn't even allow himself any doubt until the fisherman episode. Even if he looked incredibly uncomfortable in the first few episodes, and compensated by totally kissing up to tono because it was what everyone expected of him.
I am sure that is the root of why he annoyed a few fans in the beginning, and relaxed more later.
... until it was brought up again when Kaoru joined the battlefield
8/
Genta Whoopsie
Me if it hadn't been for the kuroko talking to him. . . t-trainwreck.
Genta hau
It must've annoyed Ryuunosuke so much how informal Genta seemed about everything.
Me that's another reason why he wanted takeru to choose mako - because she never hesitated to stay with him, whereas Ryuunosuke needed a shove to get over himself and figure out whom his faith belonged to.
Me and in a way I think takeru didn't expect him to come, either, because his face went from o_o at the rest of the shinkengers arriving to O_O when ryuunosuke turned up too.
Genta ... Pretty much. Oh dear.
Chiaki nudged him about going but since Ryuunosuke clearly wasn't ready to budge...
Me I like how Mako rubbed his shoulder, though. Just to let him know they wouldnt judge.
... not that it helps. Ryuunosuke does enough judging for four.
Me speaking of which, huh. the only one who knows ryuunosuke didn't make the decision to follow the others by himself is kaoru.
Genta ... Oh damn
Me it's still one of my favorite scenes :< the kuroko actually interacting with a shinkenger is a pretty huge deal
Genta Since they're normally supposed to be just in the background
Me even though ryuunosuke has approached them before because he keeps insisting on helping. XD I am sure that is part of why kuroko-tachi loev shinkenblue
he is used to interacting with people like them! stage hands, kabuki actor.
Genta D'awwwwwww.
... Also, since it seems like ShinkenBlue doubles as second-in-command even more pressure to be a Good Vassal.
ANYWAY. CONTINUE.
Me lmao yes
when you look at ryuunosuke you don't really expect him to assume authority so well, but when tono isn't around and the others depend upon him...
it's pretty impressive.
Genta Yep. Part of it comes from his training. Just part of it though.
The rest comes from sheer awesomeness and personality.
Me 8D
... and then the whole thing was parodized in furry shinkenger world.
XD
Genta STILL NEED TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF, HAM
Me LIKE HELL I DO
Genta USURPER
Me there wasn't really that much disturbing about it until you look at vassal!Takeru.
Genta .... Submissiveness.
Me tori obviously enjoyed hamming it up. XD it was beautiful.
Genta Seriously. The entire cast must've had fun doing that movie. XDD
And the animal sounds~
Me yessss.
I am rewatching it right now.
Genta Hahaha
Me Ryuunosuke was pretty casual about it, though. Going, "No big deal" when Takeru formally apologizes to him...
idk, it kind of looks like he's expressing an actual desire to be on equal ground.
Genta And yet dragonlord...
Me ...
oh hey, I did the splits.
so I can do that.
Genta Wait. What?
Me LOOK AT HIS ROLE CALL POSE
Genta ...... Oh wow.
Go flexible ham
Me 8DDD
I am immensely pleased
Genta So bendable~
Me ... and then you had to go and point it out again in the final scene
Genta 8D
Me I am enjoying his vast amout of embarrassed expressions so much.
... lmao
LMAO
"DIDN'T YOU SEE HOW I RISKED MY LIFE FOR THE LORD" - "... I forgot." - "SONNNAAAAA" so many GOLD flashbacks now
ryuunosuke, you perfect lady.
Genta HAHAHAHA
Me this word will never be the same to me
Genta I love it whenever boss lady mocks her for that
Me it is the best running gag ever.
Genta Best and worst boss ever
Me ... and then he gets his grab on takeru
shows what he has learned about how to treat him. "BELIEVE MEEEE /touches all over"
Genta Clearly you picked up some stuff from me
Me I would never admit to it
8|
Genta :D
LOVE ME, HAM
Me I do 8( I tsun at nobody else as much as I do at you.
Genta ....
:D;;

introspection, ooc

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